The Third Statement of Maulana Syed Abul A’la Mawdudi in the Court of Enquiry, Pakistan: Regarding the Qadiani (Ahmadiyya) Movement
[From the Book: The Qadiani Problem, by Syed Abul A'la Maududi]
(Various stages through which the Movement launched by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad passed; various claims put forth by Mirza during these stages; and the impact of these claims on the Qadiani beliefs and conducts).
In the year 1880, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad appeared among the Muslims as a preacher and champion of Islam. Before we describe various beliefs and ideas propounded by the Mirza during the various periods of his life from 1880 to the year of his death (26 May, 1908), it is necessary to arrange these periods in chronological order, so that the beliefs and ideas relating to one period may be easily distinguished from those of the other period.
Chronological Order
From 1880 to 1888 – In this period, the Mirza was a preacher of Islam and a champion of the Faith who defended the religion of Islam from the attacks of non-Muslims. Mirza insisted that his beliefs in regard to all matters were the same as the beliefs held by the general body of the Muslims. Although the Muslims were startled even then by various claims latent in his writings, yet the Mirza always managed to pacify the Muslim sentiment by offering various interpretations for his claims.
In December, 1888 A.D., he published an advertisement inviting people to render allegiance to him. In 1889 A.D., he started receiving oaths of allegiance. At that time, he claimed himself to be only a ‘Mujaddid-i-Waqt’ (Renovator of the Age) and one ‘Appointed by God’. He set up a comparison between himself and Masih (peace be upon him) on the ground that as Masih lived in poverty and humility, so was the Mirza carrying out his task in a state of destitution. In those days, the Muslims thought of the Mirza in favorable terms. However, they felt uneasy about the Mirza’s claim that he was superior to all the venerable saints of Islam.
(Seerat-ul-Mehdi by Sahibzada Bashir Ahmad Part I, Pages 14, 31,8; Tabligh-i-Risalat, Volume I, Pages 11, 12, 15).
In 1891, Mirza pronounced that Masih (peace be upon him) was dead, and he put forth his own claim to be the Promised Messiah and the Promised Mehdi. This caused great unrest among the Muslims (Serrat-ul-Mehdi, Page 31 and 89). In the early part of this period, Mirza wrote: “For about twelve years, which is a long period of time, I remained completely unaware that God had appointed me the Promised Messiah in the Burahin (i.e. Burahin-i-Ahmadiya) with great emphasis. I had adhered to the traditional belief in the second coming of Christ (peace be upon him). After the passage of twelve years, the time came for the truth to be revealed to me. A continuous chain of revelations descended on me proclaiming that I was the Promised Messiah.” (Ijaz-i-Ahmadi, Appendix to Nazul-i-Masih, Page 7).
Mirza wrote in another place: “Although in the Burahin-i-Ahmadiya, God has name me ‘Isa and had affirmed that He and His Apostle (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had foretold my advent, yet since a group of Muslims held steadfast to the belief which I also shared with them that Hadrat ‘Isa (peace be upon him) would descend from heaven, so I did not wish to contradict the obvious meaning of the Quran and the Hadith. I gave a different interpretation to this revelation and continued to share the belief held by the general body of the Muslims and published it in Burahin-i-Ahmadiya. Subsequently, however, revelations descended on me like a torrent proclaiming that I was the Messiah whose advent had been promised“
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Page 149).
In 1900, some leading disciples of the Mirza started proclaiming him a prophet in unambiguous terms. They raised him to that status which according to the Holy Quran, is reserved only for the Prophets (peace be upon them). Sometimes, Mirza affirmed their statements; at other times, he would interpret these statements by calling himself an incomplete prophet, a partial prophet, or an innovator merely to win over those who showed some hesitation in reposing their faith in his claim to prophethood. During the same period, Maulvi `Abdul Karim, a leading disciple of the Mirza, delivered a sermon to the Friday congregation on 7th August, 1900. Mirza himself was present at that congregation. In the course of his sermon, Maulvi `Abdul Karim exhorted the Ahmadis: “If you do not follow the lead of the Masih Mau`ud (Promised Messiah) in all matters and if you do not affirm in him even as the companions believed in the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), then you shall stand guilty of discriminating among God’s Prophets just as the non-Ahmadis do“. At the conclusion of Friday Prayers, Mirza affirmed the above statement in the following words: “You have given a faithful description of my religion“. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Sahib-zada Bashir Ahmad, Page 167). Yet, in spite of this affirmation, Mirza abstained from putting forth in clear terms his claim to prophethood. According to Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad, the Mirza’s creed in those days was that “He was partly superior to Hadrat Masih (peace be upon him) and that he claimed to be a kind of ‘Prophet in part’ and his prophethood was imperfect“. (Al-Qaul-ul-Fasl, Page 24. For a further detailed clarification please refer to Munkarin-i-Khilafat Ka Anjam by Jalal-ud-Din Shams, Page 19).
In 1901, Mirza, openly and unreservedly claimed himself to be a prophet and a messenger. He ceased qualifying his ‘prophethood’ with expressions like ‘incomplete prophethood’, ‘prophet in part’, or an ‘innovator prophet’ etc. in most of his writings. (Seerat-ul-Mehdi, part I, Page 31). Jalal-ud-Din Shams, in his book, Munkarin-i-Khilafat Ka Anjam, explains: “In some of his writings before the year 1901, the venerable Hadrat (i.e., the Mirza) denied his prophethood and said that he was not a prophet but an innovator. But, in his writings after the year 1901, he did not call his ‘prophethood in part’, nor did he style himself an ‘Innovator’. Instead, in his writings, he always referred to himself as a ‘prophet’ in positive terms” (Page 19). In this same connection, Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad [Mirza's son] states: “He effected a change in his creed in 1901. The year 1900 should be regarded as an interim period, which forms a boundary line like Barzakh (a barrier) between the two concepts… Hence, it is certain that the reference, which date prior to 1901, in which he denied his prophethood, stand abrogated now and it is wrong to base any arguments on those references.” (Haqiqat-ul-Nubuwwat, Page 121).
In the year 1904, among other claims, the Mirza also claimed himself to be Krishna. (Lecture by the Mirza delivered at Sialkot, November 2, 1904).
Let us trace through the above periods different statements of the Mirza and the policy adopted by his community with regard to matters of dispute between the Ahmadis and the Muslims. These statements and viewpoints of policy are grouped below under different headings:
Khatam-i-Nubuwwat
(Finality of Prophethood)
1. Basic Concept
Initially, Mirza believed in the concept of the Finality of Prophethood exactly as the Muslims do, i.e., the line of prophethood came to an end in Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and that no prophet shall come after him. Explaining this, in several of his works, he writes:
“Are you not aware that the Munificent and High Lord bestowed upon our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) the name of ‘Khatam-um-Nabiyyin’ (the Last of the Prophets) without any exception, and our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) explained it clearly by the saying: ‘No prophet will come after me’, for the benefit of the skeptics. If we permit the advent of a prophet after our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as lawful, it is tantamount to regarding as lawful the opening of the door to the office of the prophethood when once it has been closed by the Command of God. And this, as is clearly believed by every Muslim, is certainly wrong. How can a prophet succeed our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), when the chain of revelation came to an end with his death and God sealed the line of the Prophets in him (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)?” (Hamamatul Bushara, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 34).
The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had repeatedly observed that no prophet would come after him. The tradition, ‘No prophet will follow me‘, was so well-established that nobody ever doubted its authenticity. The Holy Quran, in which every word is absolute and final, also affirmed in the verse. “He is the Messenger of Allah and he is the Last of the Prophets“, that prophethood has ended in our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)”. (Kitab al Barria, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 184).
It is certain that no person can attain the office of prophethood after our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)“. (Izala-i-Oham, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 577).
The Holy Quran does not permit as lawful the advent of any prophet, old or new, after the Last of the Prophets (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). (Izala-i-Oham, Page 761).
Hence, what a bold audacity, recklessness and insolence it is to follow evil notions and willfully ignore the stark reality presented by the Quran and to accept the idea of the coming of a new prophet after the Last of the Prophets (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). (Ayyam al-Sulh, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 146).
I believe in all those precepts which form part of the Muslim creed and in which the Sunni sect believes. I accept all the tenets which are authenticated beyond doubt by the Quran and the Traditions. I regard anyone who claims to be a prophet or a messenger after our Master and the Last of the Prophets, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), as an impostor and infidel“.
(Proclamation issued by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, dated October 2, 1891 [the print in the book says 1861, but I think this is a typo], and reproduced in Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. II, Page 2).
Before this congregation of the Muslims present in this House of God (Jami’ Masjid, Delhi), I declare without any reservation that I am a believer in the Finality of the Prophet hood of the Last of the Prophets (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), and I regard anyone who refutes the Finality of Muhammad’s Prophethood as a pagan and outside the pale of Islam.
(Written statement of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad which was read out in Jami’ Masjid, Delhi, on October 23, 1891., reproduced in Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. II, Page 44).
2. Explanation of Earlier Claims
In order to set at rest the suspicions which some of his writings had aroused in the minds of Muslims that he claimed to be a prophet or he was about to lay claim to prophethood, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad offered the following explanations:
“We also condemn the claimant to the prophethood with curses and we believe in the creed ‘There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.’ We believe in the Finality of the Prophethood of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). We do not profess to be the recipient of Prophetic revelations. We only acknowledge to receive revelations on behalf of and under the protection of the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and the revelation which is transmitted to the friends of God who are faithful followers of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). I do not lay claim to the status of Prophethood. I only claim friendship with God and profess to be a Renovator”. (Proclamation of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Reproduced in Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. VI, Page 302).
“This humble individual is neither a Prophet nor a Messenger, but only an inferior servant and follower of the innocent Prophet Muhammad Mustafa (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)”.
(An observation of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Reproduced in Qamar al-Mehdi, by Qamar-ud-Din Jhelumi, Page 58).
“It is true that in the Inspiration revealed to this person from God, this person has been frequently addressed as Prophet, Messenger, and Envoy. But, these words have not been used in their real sense. It is our conviction and belief that in the real sense of the word ‘Prophet’, no new or old Prophet will come after the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). But, it lies in the power of God to address an inspired person as a Prophet or a Messenger in the metaphorical sense”.
(Siraj-i-Munir, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib, Page 302).
“For twenty years, this humble person has constantly received inspirations from God in which often the word ‘Prophet’ or ‘Messenger’ has been used for him. But, the man who infers that this prophethood or ministry is real would be guilty of a grievous error… These words which have been used with regard to my person in a metaphorical sense only create a schism in Islam and entail evil consequences. Hence, the community should avoid the use of these words in common parlance.”
(Letter addressed by the Mirza to Akhbar al-Hukm, Qadian, dated August 17, 1899. Reproduced in Mashih Mau’ud and Hatm-i-Nubuwwat by Maulvi Muhammad Ali, M.A., Page 4).
I am not a prophet, but I am the bearer of a divine message from God (Innovator) and I am the One with whom God holds communion (Interlocutor)”. (A’ina Kamalat-i-Islam, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 383).
“I have certainly laid no claim to prophethood nor have I said that I am a Prophet. But, these people showed haste and erred in comprehending my saying… I have conveyed to people nothing except what I have written in my books and that is that I am an Innovator (a bearer of a message) and God holds communion with me in the same manner as He does with Innovators”.
(Hamamatul Bushra, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 96).
“I am an Innovator, who among the Messengers is both the follower of a Prophet and an imperfect prophet himself”.
(Azala-i-Auham, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 569).
“In one sense, an Innovator (Muhaddith) is also a Prophet. Though not a perfect prophet, he is, nevertheless, a prophet in part as he enjoys the privilege of holding direct communion with God. Things that are hidden from ordinary people are revealed to him, and just as the revelations transmitted to the Prophets are exempt from interference by the Devil, so are the inspirations revealed to him”.
(Tozih-i-Maram, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 18).
“This humble individual has never at any time claimed to be a Prophet or a Messenger in the real sense of the word. It is no heresy to use a word in its metaphoric sense or to use it in speech in its lexicographic connotation. But, I disapprove even of this lest it should cause misunderstanding among the general body of Muslims”.
(Anjam-i-Atham, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 27).
“So, this is only a question of semantics. In other words, what you call a ‘dialogue’ or an ‘address’, by the command of the Almighty, I call the same phenomenon, when it occurs frequently, as prophethood. Everybody has his own terminology to use”.
(Tamta Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 68).
“This humble individual wishes to bring to the notice of all Muslims that all the expressions used in my Risala Fateh al-Islam, Tauzeeh al-Maram and Azala-i-Auham, such as ‘In one sense an Innovator is a Prophet’ or ‘To be an Innovator is to be a Prophet in part’ or ‘Muhadithiat’ (Innovation) is a sort of imperfect Prophethood are not used in their real sense. These have been used in their literal sense for the sake of simplicity. Otherwise, in no way, do I lay claim to real Prophethood… Therefore, I wish to make it clear to all Muslim brethren that if they are incensed over these words and if those words are shocking to their hearts, they should consider all the above expressions as amended and regard me only as an Innovator, because I would not in any cause schismatic strife among the Muslims. At every point, in place of the word ‘Prophet’, please substitute the word ‘Innovator’ and consider the word ‘Prophet’ as deleted”.
(Written statement read out at a Public Meeting, dated February 3, 1892. Reproduced in Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. II, Page 95).
3. Various Claims to Prophethood
Then, the Mirza laid claim to being a Prophet and this claim was not presented in a single form, but in many different forms on various occasions:
An ‘Ummati’ Prophet: “Later, the revelations from God descended on me like a torrent. This occurrence dislodged me from the present creed and the title of a Prophet was definitely conferred on me in such a way that on the one hand I was a Prophet and on the other a faithful follower of the Prophet, “
(Haqiqatul Wahi, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 149).
A Prophet Without a Mandate: “All prophethoods save that which is authenticated by Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) are abolished. No Prophet bearing a mandate will come. And none can become a Prophet without carrying a mandate, save the one who is already a faithful follower of the Prophet (Ummati). Hence, on this basis, I am a faithful follower as well as a Prophet”.
(Tajalliyat-i-Ilahia, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 24).
A Prophet Bearing the Canonic Law: “Try to understand the real nature of ‘Shariat’ (The Canonic Law). He, who is inspired by divine revelation, sets up a code of injunctions and prohibitions and gives a law to his followers, becomes a mandate-bearing Prophet… My mandate contains both injunctions and prohibitions…and if you think that a mandate invariably contains original commandments, this is a fallacy. God affirms: …, i.e., The teachings of the Quran are also contained in the Torah”.
(Arba’in, No. 4, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Pages 7-83).
A Shadow Prophet or Incarnation of Prophet: “Even as Real and Permanent Prophethoods are types of Prophethood, so the shadow or incarnate Prophethood represents another type. The Promised Messiah’s status as a Shadow Prophet does not dispossess him of his status as a Prophet; it represents merely a type of Prophethood… The Shadow Prophet enjoys the same privileges as are bestowed upon real and permanent Prophets, for the substance of Prophethood is one and the same”.
(Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 118).
Incarnation of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him): “On the authority of the Quranic verse…I am the incarnation of the same Last Prophet. Twenty years ago, God addressed me in Burahin-i-Ahmadiya as Muhammad and Ahmad and created me an Incarnation of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)“.
(‘Ek Ghalti Ka Izala--Clearing a Misunderstanding by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad).
A Composite Prophet Embracing All Prophets: “No Prophet came into this world whose name was not given to me. In Burahin-i-Ahmadiya, God has affirmed me as Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Ishaque, Ya’qub, Isma’il, Moses, Dawud, ‘Isa, son of Mary, and Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). I am the incarnation of all these Prophets“.
(Tatimmah Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 84).
Prophethood Ends in the Mirza: “In this Ummat, the distinction of being called a Prophet was bestowed upon me alone and all others are undeserving of this appellation.”
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 391).“In no case can more than one Prophet be appointed from among the followers of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Hence, the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) foretold the advent of one Prophet of God from among his followers and that Prophet is the Promised Messiah. None save the Promised Messiah has been addressed as the prophet of God or the Messenger of God, nor did the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) prophesy the coming of anyone else. On the other hand, he refuted the others by saying, ‘No Prophet will follow me’, and explained it clearly that ‘no Prophet and no messenger will come after me save the Promised Messiah’.
(Tashhiz-ul-Azhan, Vol. 9, No. 3, Pages 30-32).
Different Interpretations of the Finality of Prophethood
In order to provide grounds for their various claims, Mirza and his community gave numerous interpretations to their idea of the finality of Prophethood on different occasions, which are reproduced below:
First Interpretation
“If a follower, who receives divine messages and revelations and attains to the status of a Prophet on the basis of his faith in and obedience to the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), is honored with the title of a Prophet, the seal of prophethood is not thereby violated, for this man is a follower. However, the advent of a Prophet who is not a follower is a violation of the Finality of Prophethood”.
(Chashma-i-Masihi, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 41).
“The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is the “Seal of the Prophets” in the sense that in the first place, all the accomplishments of prophethood have been concentrated in him and, secondly, no Messenger bearing a new mandate will come after him nor will follow any Prophet who is not a follower of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)”.
(Chashma-i-Ma’arifat, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Appendix, Page 9).
Second Interpretation
The Magnificent Lord appointed the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as the Seal of the Prophets. In other words, the Lord bestowed upon him the Seal which was denied to the other Prophets in order to raise him to the highest order of excellence. It is for this reason that the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is called ‘the Seal of the Prophets’. Adherence to him blesses one with the excellence of Prophethood and his spiritual guidance does not carve out a Prophet. (Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 96).
“In respect of ‘the Seal of the Prophets’, Hadrat Masih Mau’ud (the Promised Messiah) observed, The Seal of the Prophets’ means that no Prophethood can be authenticated without his seal. When the seal is affixed, the paper becomes authentic and is considered valid. Similarly, the Prophethood which is not authenticated and confirmed by the Seal of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is not genuine“. (Malfuzat-i-Ahmadiya, by Muhammad Manzur Elahi, Part V, Page 290).
Third Interpretation
“Through His Wisdom and Bounty, God so willed that for thirteen centuries after the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), Prophethood became extinct among his followers, so that the dignity of his Prophethood may be established (in other words, his Prophethood may not be sullied by the advent of successor Prophets just after him). But, then in order to maintain the glory of Islam, certain persons were required who could be addressed as ‘Prophets of God’ after the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and further God willed to complete resemblance with the series of the Prophets of yore (from the series of Moses). So, God enjoined upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) towards the close of his life to utter the term ‘Prophet of God’ in reference to the Promised Messiah”.
(Statement of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Published in Akhbar-ul-Hukm, Qadian, dated 7th April, 1903. Also produced in the pamphlet entitled ‘Khatm-i-Nubuwwat by Fakhr-ud-Din Multani, Page 10).
Fourth Interpretation
“I am the shadow of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Hence, the Seal of Prophethood does not stand violated. Muhammad’s Prophethood is contained in Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him); in other words, none other than Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is the Prophet. As I am the incarnation of the Prophet and all excellent traits of Muhammad, including his Prophethood, have been reflected in the image of my shadow; how could I be regarded as a separate person claiming prophethood distinct from Prophethood of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)“. (Ek Ghlti Ka Azala, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad).
Revelation
As in the case of ‘Khatm-i-Nubawwat’ (‘Finality of Prophethood’), Mirza’s position with regard to ‘Revelation’ and ‘the visitations of the Archangel Gabriel’ has been constantly shifting through various stages. A survey of Mirza’s changing outlook is given below:
Initial Position
“To believe in the advent of a new Prophet after our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is tantamount to believing in the doctrine that the door to the office of prophethood will open after having been closed; but this is certainly false, as is known to all Muslims. How can a Prophet come after our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) when the chain of Revelations was completed at his death?” (Hamama-tul-Bushra, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 34).
“Even if it be supposed for once that the transmission of divine revelation is open and that Gabriel will convey but a single sentence from God to man, it would clearly negate the idea of the Finality of Prophethood. If the Seal of Finality is broken and the transmission of divine messages opens, it makes no difference whether it is a single sentence or more thus transmitted… After the demise of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), Gabriel has been forbidden to convey Prophetic Revelations for all time to come.“ (Azala-i-Auham, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 577).
“The Holy Quran does not admit the advent of any Prophet, old or new, after the last of the Prophets. A Prophet receives his knowledge of Divine Law through the agency of Gabriel, but the office of Gabriel is now defunct as far as the transmission of divine revelations is concerned. And the advent of a prophet in the absence of divine revelations is impossible”.
(Azala-iAuham, Page 761)
“To be the recipient of Divine Law through revelations transmitted by Gabriel is a necessary attribute of the Messenger. And it is now established that the series of Prophetic revelations has been closed till Doomsday.”
(Azala-i-Auham, Page 614).
“Hence how audacious, bold and insolent it is to pursue evil notions and willfully neglect the clear injunctions of the Quran and to admit the advent of a new Prophet after the last of the Prophets and to open the series of Prophetic revelations when God has closed it, for he who holds the dignity of a Prophet is also the recipient of Prophetic Revelation”.
(Ayyam-us-Sulh, Ghulam Ahmad, Page 146).
Second Position
“We also condemn the claimant to Prophethood with causes and believe in the creed, ‘There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah’. We believe in the Finality of Muhammad’s Prophethood (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), and we are convinced that one who is a follower of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) may, under the shadow the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) receive ‘Revelation by inheritance’ rather that ‘Prophetic revelation’”. (Proclamation published by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, vide Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. 6, Page 302).
“Is it necessary that one who claims to receive divine messages should also lay claim to Prophethood?”
(Jang-i-Muqqadas, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 67).
“I am not a Prophet, but God has appointed me an Innovator and an Interlocutor”.
(Aina Kamalat-i-Islam, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 383).
Third Position
What an absurd and erroneous fallacy it is to believe that the series of divine revelations has been closed forever after the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and there is no possibility that the chain of revelations will be resumed until Doomsday. Shall we worship mere legends? Is such a religion worth the name in which direct communion with God is extinct?“
(Appendix to Burahin-i-Ahmadiy, Part V, Page 183. It must be pointed out that part V of Burahin-i-Ahmadiya, came out in the year 1908).
Persian Verses: [Translation]
“Whatever Wahi (revelation) I receive from God
I swear I will know it to be free from mistakes;
Just as I do with Quran, I will hold dear my Wahi
It is my belief to know it is pure from errors;
I swear by God this Word is great
From the mouth of a Pure and Knowledgeable God.”
“Just as I believe in the verses of the Holy Quran, in the same measure, without an iota of difference, I believe in the truth of the divine message which has been revealed to me in a constant chain of signs. I can swear in the House of God (Baitullah) that the sacred revelations received by me have been transmitted by the same God who conveyed His Divine Word to Hadrat Moses, Hadrat ‘Isa (peace be upon them) and hadrat Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)”. (Ek Ghalti Ka Azala, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad).
“I believe in the truth of the divine Messages revealed to me in the same measure as I believe in the Torah, the Bible and the Holy Quran”. (Arba’in, No. 4 by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 25).
Persian Sentences: [Translation]
“Gabriel(AS) came to me and chose me by pointing to me with his finger; and said that God will protect you from your enemies.”
Christ (peace be upon him) and the Question of His Reappearance
In respect of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) and his reappearance and Mirza’s own claim to be the promised Messiah, the viewpoint of Mirza has been changing through different stages. An outline of his varying positions is given below:
First Position
“This humble person’s claim to be an incarnation of the Promised Messiah, which some dimwitted people have misunderstood as ‘the Promised Messiah’ is not a novelty which people have heard from me only at the present time… I have certainly not claimed to be Christ, son of Mary (peace be upon him). The person who alleges that I have made such a claim is a disruptionist and a liar. On the other hand, over a period of seven or eight years it has been constantly published in my behalf that I am an Incarnation of Christ”. (Azala-i-Auham, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 190)
“It is possible, quite possible, that in some future age a Masih should appear who would appear true to all the apparent meanings of certain words contained in the Traditions”. (Azala-i-Auham, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 199)
“It has been revealed to this humble person that this insignificant creature by virtue of his poverty, humility, reliance upon God, self-denial and signs and lights represents an image of Christ’s earlier existence on this earth. The nature of this humble person is akin to the nature of Christ (peace be upon him)”. (Burahin-i-Ahmadiya, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 499).
“It has been revealed to the author that he is the Renovator of the Age and his spiritual excellence matches the spiritual excellence of Christ, son of Mary (peace be upon him)”. (Proclamation by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, vide Tabligh-i-Risalat, Volume I, Page 15).
“If an objection is raised that an Incarnation of Christ must be a Prophet, for Christ (peace be upon him) was a Prophet of God, the answer, in the first place, is that our master and prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) did not set Prophethood as a necessary attribute of the Promised Messiah. It is clearly recorded that the promised Messiah would be a Muslim and would follow the Shariat (the Canonic Law) like the other Muslims, and he will offer nothing more”.
(Tauzih al-Maram, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 19).
Second Position
“And this is ‘Isa whose advent was awaited. In the revealed texts, the names Mary and Christ have been used in reference to me. It was said of me, “We will make him the Image”, and further it was said, “This is Christ, son of Mary, whose advent was awaited”. That which the people doubt is Right and this is the one who awaited and doubt arises from lack of perception”.
(Kishti-i-Noah, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 48).
“In the third part of Burahin-i-Ahmadiya, God addressed me as Mariam. Then, as is evident from Burahin-i-Ahmadiya, I was reared in the image of Mariam for two years and continued to grow behind the veil… Later, as was done in the case of Mary, I was filled with the sould of ‘Isa and I was made pregnant in a metaphorical way. At last, after a period of many months (which is not of more than ten months’ duration), I was delivered from Mary in the form of ‘Isa by a divine message which is contained at the end of Part IV of Burahin-i-Ahmadiya. It is thus that I was created the sone of Mary and at the time when Burahin-i-Ahmadiya, was written, God did not reveal to me this hidden mystery”.
(Kishti-i-Noah, Page 46).
“Hence be convinced that he who has descended is the son of Mary. He, like ‘Isa, son of Mary, did not find a learned man, a spiritual father in his time who could become an agent for his spiritual birth. So, the Omnipotent HImself became his guardian and took him to His bosom and instructed him and name his servant ‘the Son of Mary’… Hence, in a metaphorical way, this is ‘Isa, son of Mary, who was born without the agency of a father. Can you prove that he has any spiritual father? Can you furnish a proof that he is included in any of your four series? Hence, who else is he but the Son of Mary”?
(Azala-i-Auham, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 659).
“We should know that the word ‘Damascus’, which appears in the Tradition of ‘Muslim’, or, in other words, as it is mentioned in the text of ‘Sahih Muslim’, which says that ‘Hadrat Masih (peace be upon him) will descend near the white tower in the eastern part of Damascus has always been a puzzle to the research scholars [see note below]… Be it know that God has revealed to me the interpretation of the word ‘Damascus’ in this way: in this place, Damascus is the name of a town where live people who possess traits like those of Yazid and follow the perverse habits and thoughts of Yazid… God has conveyed to me through Revelation that since a majority of its residents possess traits like those of Yazid, this town of Qadian has some connection with and bears similarity to Damascus”. (Hashia Azala-i-Auham, Page 63-73)
[Note: It may be pointed out that no scholar before the time of Mirza was ever perplexed over the word 'Damascus'. There is hardly any trace of amazement in the writing of all the exponents of the 'Science of Hadith'. However, surely Mirza must have been sorely perplexed as to how he could establish himself as the Promised Messiah in the presence of this clear reference in the Traditions to a well known place.]
“I swear by God Who has appointed me, and only the accursed ones dispute over the actions of the Lord, that God has deputed me as the Promised Messiah”.
(Ek Ghalti Ka Azala, Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. 10, Page 18).
Qadiani Community Constitutes an ‘Ummat’
Mirza himself clearly affirmed the principle that a Prophet creats an ‘Ummat’. He, then, proceeded on to call his community an ‘Ummat’. A few extracts from his writings given below to substantiate the point:
“The person who claims to be a Prophet will certainly affirm his Faith in the existence of God. Furthermore, such a man will proclaim that he is the recipient of Divine Revelation… In addition to this, he will relate to the people the Word of God which has been revealed to him. He will unite his followers to an ‘Ummat’ (body of the faithful) which believes in him as a Prophet and regards his book as the revealed Book of God”. (Aina Kamalat-i-Islam, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 344).
“You should comprehend the real nature of ‘Shariat’. He who sets out a number of Injunctions and Prohibitions through Revelation received by him and establisheds a canon for his ‘Ummat’ becomes an Apostle bearing the Canonic Law (Shariat). My revelations include both Injunctions and Prohibitions”. (Arba’in, No. 4, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Pages 7-83).
“The former Masih was limited to being a Masih. Hence, his ‘Ummat’ was led astray and the chain of Moses came to an end. If I were also confined to being a Masih, the end would not have been dissimilar. But, I have also been appointed a Mahdi and, in addition, I am an incarnation of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Hence my ‘Ummat’ will be divided into two sects. Those who will succumb to the influence of Christianity shall be obliterated. The other sect will enter the fold of Mahdwiat“. (Statement by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, published in Al-Fazl, dated January 26, 1916).
Consequences of Refuting Mirza from the Standpoint of Belief
Initial Position
“This humble person has been deputed by God to act as a Muhaddith (one who renews or reinterprets the law) among this ‘Ummat’ (community of the faithful). A Muhaddith (Innovator) is a Prophet in one sense. Although his Prophethood is not perfect, yet he is a Prophet in part. It is obligatory on the Muhaddith (Innovator), as it is obligatory on all Prophets that he should proclaim his credentials loudly and the person who denies the credentials of the Muhaddith (Innovator) is to some extend liable to punishement”. (Tauzih-i-Maram, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 18).
“From the start, it has been my creed that no person can become an infidel or a Dajjal (Antichrist) on the grounds of refuting me. Nonetheless, he will be the one led astray and deviated from the right path, and I do not call him faithless, devoid of religious faith”. (Marginal Note) “It should be born in mind that only such Prophets as bring Shariat (the Canonic Law) and fresh mandate from God are vested with the privilege of denouncing their refuters as infidels. With the exception of the bearer of a divine mandate, the denier of all the Innovators and the Inspired Ones, however, exalted a position they may be holding in the favour of God and in spite of enjoying the privilege of holding communion with the Almighty, does not become a heretic”. (Taryaq-ul-Qulub, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 130).
“Every Muslim to whom my message has been propagated, and who does not hold me as the final arbiter in all matters nor does he accept me as the Promised Messiah, nor does he believe in the divine origin of my revealed mandate, is liable to be held accountable in heaven irrespective of his being a Muslim”. (Tuhfat-un-Nadwah, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 4).
“The person who refutes the Promised Messiah or is indifferent to the necessity of believing in him is absolutely ignorant of the true spirit of Islam and the nature of Prophethood and the purpose of Divine Ministry. Such a person does not deserve to be called a true Muslim and a true obedient servant of God and His Apostle… ‘Transgressor’ is the term for those who do not believe in the Promised Messiah and drift away from his creed”. (Hujjatullah — Address delivered in Lahore by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Reproduced here from An-Nubuwwata Fi Islam, by Maulvi Muhammad Ali, M.A., Page 214).
Final Position
“The person who does not follow thee does not pledge allegiance to thee and remains thy adversary is a denizen of Hell, for he disobeys God and His Apostle”. (Proclamation Ma’yar al-Khyar, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, dated May, 25, 1900. Reproduced here from Kaltmat-ul-Fasl, by Sahibzada Bashir Ahmad, Page 129).
“Now when there is no doubt in the matter that salvation cannot be attained without affirming in the Promised Messiah, why are needless efforts he made to establish that the non-Ahmadis are Muslims? (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 129).
“Whenever Hadrat Mirza has addressed the non-Ahmadis as Muslims, he has done so because they profess to be Muslims. Otherwise, the Mirza, by an express command of God, did not look upn his deniers as Muslims“. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 126).
(After making a reference to a writing of Mirza, the text proceeds as follows): “This writing of Hadrat Masih Mau’ud (the promised Messiah) provides answers to several questions. In the first place, God conveyed to the Hadrat through inspiration that his denier was not a Muslim, and not only did God reveal this information, but also commanded the Hadrat to look upon his deniers as outside the pale of Islam. Secondly, the Hadrat expelled ‘Abdul hakim Khan from the community on the ground that he addressed the non-Adhmadis as Muslims. Thirdly, to hold the view that the deniers of the Promised Messiah are Muslims is adhering to an absurd belief. Fourthly, God’s blessing is withheld from the person who adheres to the above belief”. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 125).
“Heresy is of two types. Firstly, a person who refutes Islam and disbelieves in the Divine Ministry of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is a heretic, an infidel. Secondly, for example, a person denies the Promised Messiah and in spite of the provision of proofs denounces him as an imposter… When considered closely, both types form the single kind of Heresy”. (Hadiqat-ul-Wahi, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Page 179).
“All those Muslims who have not pledged allegiance to Hadrat Masih Mau’ud, including even those who may not have heard his name, are infidels and outside the pale of Islam“. (Aina-i-Sadaqat, by Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad, Page 35).
“Every man who believes in Moses (peace be upon him), but refutes Christ (peace be upon him) or acknowledges Christ (peace be upon him), yet disbelieves in Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) or believes in Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), but refutes the Promised Messiah, is not only a heretic, but a confirmed infidel and is outside the pale of Islam”. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 110).
“God sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) again in Qadian in order to fulfull His Promise“. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 110).
“So, the Promised Messiah himself is the Prophet of God who has appeared in the world a second time to carry out the Propagation of Islam”. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 155).
“Now, the matter is quite clear. If the denial of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) entails heresy or infidelity, a denial of the Promised Messiah must also amount to heresy, for the Promised Messiah is not other than the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) himself; they are one and the same”. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 147).
“The person who takes up a neutral positon with regard to us is in reality our refuter, and he who does not affirm faith in us and yet speaks well of us is also our adversary“. (Statement by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, published in the newspaper Badr, dated April 24, 1903. Reproduced from Munkarin-i-Khilafat Ka Anjam, Page 82).
Consequences of Refuting the Mirza from a Practical Point of View:
“Subsequently, Hadrat Masih Mau’ud clearly enjoined upon us: We should avoid all contacts with the non-Ahmadis in matters of bereavement and marriage. How can we say their funeral prayers, when we do not share their grief?” (Al-Fazl, June 18, 1916).
“The venerable Mirza observes: It is not forbidden to take the daughter of a non-Ahmadi in marriage, for it is lawful to marry women from the people of the Book”. (Al Fazl, December 16, 1920).
“It is notified for public information that to marry Ahmadi girls to non-Ahmadi men is unlawful. Particular care should be taken in this regard in the future”. (Notification by the Secreatry, Public Affairs, Qadian, published in Al-Fazl, February 14, 1933).
“Hadrat Mirza abstained from saying funeral prayers for his son (the late Mirza Fazal Ahmad) on the ground that he was a non-Ahmadi”. (Al-Fazal, December 15, 1921).
“So, bear in mind, as God has revealed to me, it is unlawful, definitely unlawful, for you to say prayers behind a person who charges us with apostasy or one who refutes us or one who wavers. Your leader in prayer should be one of your own community”. (Arba’in, No. 3, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad).”
“My belief is that it is unlawful to say funeral prayers for those who pray behind the non-Ahmadis, for in my view such people are outside the pale of Ahmadiyat. Similarly, it is unlawful to say funeral prayers for those who give their daughters in marriage to the non-Ahmadis and die without offering repetance for this sin”. (Letter of Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad, published in Al-Fazl, April 13, 1926).
“Hadrat Mau’ud has permitted only such dealings with the non-Ahmadis as were held lawful with regard to the Christians by the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Our prayers were segregated from the prayers of the non-Ahmadis. It was forbidden to marry our daughters to them. We were enjoined upon not to say their funeral prayers. What else is there that we can share with them? There are two types of relationship–Religious and Worldly. The principal link in religious relationship is joint worship and the chief means of worldly relationship is matrimony. But, both of these relationships are forbidden to us. If you ask, ‘are we at liberty to take the daughters of the non-Ahmadis?” My answer is, ‘the daughters of the Christians are also permitted to us”. And if you enquire, ‘why do we extend salam to the non-Ahmadis’? The answer is, ‘it is established from the Tradition that on certain occasions the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) returned even the greetings of the Jews’. (Kalimat-ul-Fasl, Page 159).
[We are very grateful to brother Hammad Ahmad Awan for having taken the time to reproduce the text of this Historic Statement in electronic format. May Allah(SWT) reward his service to Islam and Muslims.]



that is a hack of work!especilly the points highlighted makes this pamphlet more easy to read.
excellent job!
Well you can see, no one wrote a comment regarding this. But they wrote to Kashif Hafeez’s article.
This work by Mawlana Mawdudi just summarizes all the things and leaves no room for any sane person to argue for Qadianiat any further!!!
While reading the above discourse one has to make a distinction between Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and Qadianiat.
Clearly, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed vociferously defends the finality of prophet hood of Muhammad PBUH and makes no claim of such a prophet hood. Additionally, he shares his spiritual experiences in various aspects. Which can be interesting to the reader, but in no way necessary to be believed in or adopted. e.g. in Quran, wife of Pharoah, Mother of Jesus had communication with Allah but it does not mean that they were prophets.
Whereas, the concept of Qadianiat and elevation of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed to prophethood seems to be result of vested interests or fanatic fellowship in which Mirza himself does not seem to have any role. Please re-read the the whole publication above to get my point. All those objectionable clauses seem to from secondary sources rather that from Mirza himself.
-happy re-read.
I think you didn’t read the post above. How about you re-read the entire post before your next comment.
Most of the Books and Speeches are of Ghulam Qadiani himself.
“On the authority of the Quranic verse…I am the incarnation of the same Last Prophet. Twenty years ago, God addressed me in Burahin-i-Ahmadiya as Muhammad and Ahmad and created me an Incarnation of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)“.
(‘Ek Ghalti Ka Izala–Clearing a Misunderstanding by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad).
Go and Re-read the post, please.
Sufi-ism at times has all kind of spiritual and intellectual dance to it. Neither the sufi nor the observers are to take it seriously. I doubt if Mirza took it seriously. he seems to be just sharing his experience. He is not advocating it. Quran is full of dreams that came to non-Muslims e.g. Yousaf in jail, Yousaf and the King etc.
Isn’t it true that Pakistani society is yearning for re-incarnation of Muhammad Ali Jinnah? Of course the re-incarnate will have some attributes of the original but does not mean he is same original one.
You are living a delusional life mate, probably even brain washed in thinking like this. It doesn’t matter from which school of thought or sect one belongs, if one crosses the line then one has crossed. Don’t try to justify Qadiani’s words because you don’t have a better argument left in front of clear proofs of his kufr and inkar-e-khatme-e-nubuwwat!
No one is looking forward for reincarnation, seems like you are believing in this. If any among the Muslim society looks upon precedents for guidance and learning that is not wrong!
When we look towards Quaid-e-Azam, we look to what his purpose was in the independence of South Asian Muslims. His status is not even close the Salaf Saliheeen! He cannot be taken as a Sahabi, Tabiee or Ima-e-Mujtahideen!! And watch you mouth while what you say about the Noble Prophets!!! You complete unawareness of Islam is complete evident from your comments regarding the Prophet Yusuf!!
If you have any evidence in response to this master piece on Qadianism, please put it through your key board. Else don’t show the world how unaware of Islam you are. People will laugh at you, don’t make a fool out of yourself!!!
Clearly you seem to be more of a man-worshiper than God-worshiper. Ideas seem to have no value to you. Being Muslim is not an intellectual and spiritual experience but more of a rigid ancestral fellowship to you.
If the above write up by Mr. Maududi is such a shining star of research then read a little more of his work regarding re-incarnation of Jesus. Seems more of an intellectual comedy or even worse, almost a Greek mythology. Have fun!
TAFHEEM-UL-QUR’AN (by Maududi)
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(In Damascus) Muslims will be lining up for prayers. Takbeer, Aqamat would have been uttered as Jesus the son of Mary will suddenly descend (from thin air) and he will lead the prayers for Muslims (Ref: Mishkat & Muslim).
Jesus, the son of Mary will descend. The leader of Muslims (Imam Mehdi) will ask him to lead prayers but Jesus will say, “No, you are leaders unto each other” (Ref: Muslim and Musnad-e- Ahmed).
The Imam of Muslims will turn back so that Jesus may advance but Jesus will say, “No, you lead the prayers.” So the Imam will lead the prayers. (Incidentally, mullahs world-wide seem to have a burning desire to lead prayers whenever and wherever possible, not realizing its significance.) However, these three Ahadith do not clarify as to who will actually lead the prayers. Jesus, Mehdi or some ordinary Muslim.
After ending the prayers with Salaam right and left, Jesus will command that the door of the Masjid be opened. Outside, Dajjal the Antichrist will be present with 70,000 armed Jews. As soon as Jesus looks at him, the Antichrist will start dissolving like salt dissolves in water and he will quicken to flee. Jesus will run after him. (After approx. 30 miles of dash and marathon while the 70,000 watch the greatest foot race ever) Jesus will get the Antichrist at the eastern gate of Lydda (near Tel-Aviv). And ALLAH WILL DEFEAT THE JEWS (Tafheem-ul-Quran p. 160). (Please note that Allah will defeat the Jews).
If Jesus left the Dajjal alone the latter will die himself dissolving and melting. But Allah will get him killed at the hands of Jesus. And Jesus will show his blood on his spear to Muslims (show his blood to get some lollipops!).
After finishing the prayers Jesus will walk toward the Antichrist with his spear in hand. As soon as the Dajjal sees Jesus the former will start melting like the melting of lead (not like salt dissolving in water). Jesus will kill him with his spear (no marathon this time). (Tafheem-ul-Quran v.IV p.161).
Jesus, the son of Marry will descend in the eastern part of Damascus near the white minaret. (The white minaret probably helping the landing). He will be dressed in two yellow shawls and will come down with his hands placed on the arms of two angels. His breath will reach as far as his eyesight and all infidels in the range of his eyesight will succumb instantly (ref. P.158).
@Jay: are u refusing the second coming of Propeht Jesus???
I am refusing to accept any prophet new or old after the Seal of the Prophets i.e. Muhammad PBUH.
But don’t take me wrong. Muhammad PBUH was such a great teacher, that I am sure many of his umatis will raise themselves to great moral and spiritual levels that they will achieve ALMOST prophet like qualities e.g. Shah Wali Ullah, Mujaddid Alif as Thani, Moeen uddin Chisti etc, BUT they will never be prophets.
Quran has no problem with this approach. I am just a reader of the Quran.
If you do believe that there is no Nabi/ Rasool after Muhammad SAW then why do you believe in Qadianism???
There can be no one “ALMOST Prophet like qualities” if that would have been the case, it would have been the Sahaba.
Regarding Umar Khattab, prophet himself said that if there would have been any prophet it would have been Umar ibn Al Khattab (R.A)!!!
Shah Waliullah and others were great scholars and Mujtahideen or men of religion, but be aware of bringing them to the status of ALMOST Prophet Like Qualities.
No Sunni Muslim believe this regarding this these personalities that they were ALMOST Prophets!!!!
You should stop being a reader of Quran but should become a student of Quran. Spend few years in recognize Islamic University so that you understand Islam!!!
You don’t qualify to interprate the Book of God by saying that the Book of Allah has no problem with this approach. You are clearly making stuff on your own. Have some fear of God.
@hamarapakistan1947:
HP, you brought up issue of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad book ‘Ayk Ghalati Ka Izala’.
Point 1:
MGA sahib is CORRECTING MISTAKE OF OTHERS (THAT INCLUDES YOU):
Paragraph 1:
Some people in our Movement who are not well-acquainted with my claim and the arguments relating to it — not having had the occasion to study my books carefully, nor having stayed in my company for a sufficient length of time to complete their knowledge — in some instances in response to an objection of the opponents give a reply which is entirely against facts. So, despite being on the side of truth, they have to face embarrassment.
Point 2:
MGA sahib is CURSING THOSE WHO ACCUSE HIM OF MAKING CLAIM OF PROPHETHOOD (THAT INCLUDES YOU):
Last Paragraph:
Now by all of this writing, I mean to say that ignorant opponents accuse me of claiming to be a prophet and messenger. I make no such claim. I am neither a prophet nor a messenger in the sense which they have in mind. However, I am a prophet and a messenger in the sense which I have just explained.{41} Hence the person who maliciously accuses me of claiming prophethood and messengership is a liar and evil-minded.{42} It is the form of burooz which has made me a prophet and a messenger, and it is on this basis that God has called me nabi and rasul again and again, but in the sense of burooz. My own self does not come into it,{43} but that of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, may peace and the blessings of God be upon him. It was on this account that I was called ‘Muhammad’ and ‘Ahmad’. So prophethood and messengership did not go to another person. What belonged to Muhammad remained with Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.
Check the link:
Correction of an error
English translation of Ayk Ghalati Ka Izala
by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Translated from Urdu by Zahid Aziz
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/noclaim/gh-trans.htm
The following is from the link you yourself provided. This is the Clear Sign of Heresy that your Prophet Qadiani is clearly denying the Coming of Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!
Simple education of Islam tells us that Jesus when he would come, he would come as an Ummati of Muhammad! He will follow the Shariah of the Seal of the Prophets!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Simple education of Islam tells us that Jesus when he would come, he would come as an Ummati of Muhammad! He will follow the Shariah of the Seal of the Prophets!!!!!!!!!!!!”
NOW PLEASE educate your readers about second coming of Jesus. Will he start his life a child who will grow up to an age before he will declare himself a second coming of Jesus OR by some super natural act, he will descend from heavens of a mature age?
In either case, what will make you accept or reject him for his claim? Like you said he will be from Umat, i.e. he will not have any Book or Kalima of himself, but will follow in footstep of that of Muhammad PBUH ?
Now with that in mind try to refute Rashid’s explanations above.
It would be very interesting to read your perspective.
I would be very much skeptical of a person suddenly showing up at my door and claiming to be Jesus. I would probably call police.
@ Jay
I don’t have to answer any of these questions to a Muslim. You reveal yourself that you have no clue about Islam and are ignorant and in disbelieve of a most basic and important tenet of Islam!!!!!!!!!!
The audience of this website are mainly Muslims, and I DO NOT NEED to tell them about Islamic principles, since they already know.
For you guys, who hate Islam and trying to create confusion among muslims, I owe u no answers.
You classically represent as to what is possibility wrong with present day Islam in Pakistan. Either to fully agree to you then rightfully claim to be a Muslim like you, else everyone has to be a “kafir.” If it were left to you Pakistan would be more of a Kafir-factory than an Islamic Republic.
Remember Iqbal:
aaeen-e-no say darna; tarz-e-kuhn peh arrnah
scared of the new (ideas); stuck with the old (interpretations)
manzil yehee kathan hay kau-moan key zindagi meh
this is the stumbling block for (the progress of) the nations
A Muslim has to be a teacher first. Now teach the audience your “most basic and important tenet of Islam!!!!!!!!!!”
we are waiting….
As I said, Muslims already know about Jesus, as it is their part of their believe. If people of you type are interested I say then seek knowledge even if you have to go to China, as you quoted Prophet Muhammad SAW in one of your comment.
I have deleted that comment, because if you have nothing logical to say then don’t say anything.
@ HamaraPakistan1947:
I am little surprised that your ““most basic and important tenet of Islam!!!!!!!!!!” is Jesus. Not Kalima, Khattam-e-Nabuvat and Quran.
In fairness, I assume that at present you are focused on 2nd coming of Jesus. If that is so then lets go to primary sources and not develop a faith on secondary sources alone. In current case the primary source is Quran. Lets see what Quran says about Jesus, whether he is dead or alive.
“ALL” prophets are humans and mortals (and naturally all mortals die)
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21:7:.For [even] before thy time, [O Muhammad,] We never sent [as Our apostles] any but [mortal] men, whom We inspired – hence,
21:8. and neither did We endow them with bodies that could dispense with food nor were they immortal.
“ALL” prophets died before Muhammad PBUH (and that includes Jesus PBUH)
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3:144: AND MUHAMMAD is only an apostle; all the [other] apostles have passed away before him: if, then, he dies or is slain, will you turn about on your heels? But he that turns about on his heels can in no wise harm God – whereas God will requite all who are grateful [to Him].
21:34. And never have We granted life everlasting to any mortal before thee, but do they, perchance, hope that although thou must die, they will live forever?
Quran it self bears testimony on behalf of Jesus of his death:
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5:116. AND LO! God said: “O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, `Worship me and my mother as deities beside God’?” [Jesus] answered: “Limitless art Thou in Thy glory! It would not have been possible for me to say what I had no right to [say]! Had I said this, Thou wouldst indeed have known it! Thou knowest all that is within myself, whereas I know not what is in Thy Self. Verily, it is Thou alone who fully knowest all the things that are beyond the reach of a created being’s perception.
5:117. Nothing did I tell them beyond what Thou didst bid me [to say]: `Worship God, [who is] my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer.’ And I bore witness to what they did as long as I dwelt in their midst; but since Thou hast caused me to die, Thou alone hast been their keeper:’ for Thou art witness unto everything.
[Message of the Quran – Muhammad Asad]
From Quran – Jesus was a mortal, who died and is also a witness to it. Since when have dead people started to be raised to life before the actual Youm-e-Qayammat? Any exception will be denying Quran.
Two verses from the Holy Quran on Your Face
And from now onwards, I will start filtering your comments, because I don’t have time for you Lies. You want to disbelieve from Islam, feel free. If you want to illogically debate, find other forums there are plenty of those.
This comment of yours in quite evident and enought evidence for any Muslim to see that you are lying in front of the world regarding Prophet Jesus. Go back and re-read the Final Testament of Allah, Al Quran in a language you understand.
Islam is based two primary sources- Al Quran and the Hadith of Prophet Muhammad SAW. Any one who claims to believe in the Quran but disbelieve in Hadith is NOT a Muslim, and there is no confusion or debate regarding this.
The following are the Hadith (Saying of the Final Prophet Muhammad Arabi SAW) regarding the Second coming of Prophet Jesus, Peace be upon him.
“It [the Day of Judgment] will not come until you see ten signs,” and [in this connection] he mentioned the smoke, the Dajjal, the Beast, the rising of the Sun from the west, the descent of Jesus son of Mary… (Sahih Muslim)
By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary [Jesus] will shortly descend amongst you people as a just ruler. (Sahih al-Bukhari)
How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Qur’an? (Sahih al-Bukhari)
These are enough evidence for those Qadianis/ Ahamdis who in front of the World Deny Quran and Hadith clearly that Jesus is Dead. That is the believe of Christians, and WE muslims do not believe in Bible but we Believe in the Last Testament of Allah- Al Quran- the message revealed to the Final prophet Muhammad SAW.
All other comments regarding Jesus by Qadianis will be deleted from here on.
The post is regarding Mirza Qadiani’s writings and speeches and if you (Qadianis/Ahmadis) have a counter argument regarding that, then bring forth.
@ Jay:
I welcome your thoughts and your comments. I have however deleted your last comment because it was not regarding the post up there.
I also agree that we should have healthy discussion. But they also should be based on logic. If Evidence is provided from the Quran and Hadith, that should be enough as a proof.
as I have provided above the verses from the Quran, that Jesus Christ was ascended to Allah, however, in your comment that I deleted, you said Jesus was not crucified but he died later. You may believe whatever you want to believe, but a Muslim believe in what was brought by Prophet Muhammad SAW.
Peace be upon you too.
Clearly you seem to be more of a man-worshiper than God-worshiper. Ideas seem to have no value to you. Being Muslim is not an intellectual and spiritual experience but more of a rigid ancestral fellowship to you.
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hey jay!!!
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you have said these lines against me in kashifiat blog.
try new new lines…..its not that difficult.
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@umersultan:
Those Muslims who HONESTLY BELIEVE IN KHATAM-E-NABUWAT (finality of prophethood) on Rasul Allah SAWS, hold belief that he was the LAST messanger of of Allah SWT, and NO NEW or OLD prophet can come after him.
@ Rashid, you are wrong in saying “Those Muslims who Honestly Believe…”
Muslims only believe in Khatm-e-Nubuwwat. If one doesn’t then one is outside the fold of Islam!!!!!!!!!!!
The whole article is a living proof there! Have you not read the article.
Have you not read the Book of Allah!!!!! Go and read The Quran in a language that you understand!
@hamarapakistan1947:
MISTAKE OF MAUDUDI SAHIB, REPEATED BY hamarapakistan1947.
Maududi sahib in his book ‘Qadiani problem’ while quoting Mirza Ghulam Ahmad or even attributing to his belief DID NOT READ Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s OWN, ORIGINAL BOOKS.
Maududi sahib has used SECONDARY SOURCES and ACCUSED Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib of writing those.
I would say this attitude of Maududi sahib is UNBECOMING of any decent human.
HamaraPakistan1947, is REPEATING THE SAME MISTAKE. He has not checked the source and is repeating MISREPRESENTATION, and DISINFROMATION made by Maududi sahib.
Your Prophet Qadiani’s books are so Rare that its impossible to have access to them.
I can easily find and have read the writings of Bahaii, so you are using a bogus argument.
Why you guys have made his books not accessible?
@HP1947:
{The prophets do not feel their dignity violated by their burooz because such a one is their very form and image, but they would certainly feel it in case of someone else. Consider how Moses, when he saw the Holy Prophet Muhammad on the night of miraj rise higher than his station, wept to show his sense of self-esteem. So, considering that God has said that “no other prophet shall come after you”,{38} if He were to send Jesus against His own word, how very hurtful would this act be to the Holy Prophet!}
Please you should read footnote 38:
Again, Hazrat Mirza affirms that Allah had told the Holy Prophet Muhammad that no prophet would come after him.
HP:
On one hand you are demanding from everyone to accept Rasul Allah SAWS as KHATAM-E-NABIEEN (The LAST messanger), and on other hnad you are saying:
“Simple education of Islam tells us that Jesus when he would come, he would come as an Ummati of Muhammad! He will follow the Shariah of the Seal of the Prophets!!!!!!!!!!!!”
PLEASE MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
DUDE YOU SEEM TO BE REALLY CONFUSED!!!!!!!!
I am confused when MIrza Qadiani’s own speeches and writings are contradicotry!!!
If you are Muslim, then go through the Siha Satta and see what Prophet said regarding the second coming of Jesus. Make up your mind whether you believe in Muhammad or no!!!!
@HP1947:
YOU ASKED FOR IT.
Your: Your Prophet Qadiani’s books are so Rare that its impossible to have access to them.
Hazoor HP sahib:
I posted three times links to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib books in URDU and ENGLISH available on couple of websites of Lahore ahmadiyya Movment. But my post does not get through. Anyways, please type following links in browser:
www dot aaiil dot org
www dot ahmadiyya dot org
I am sure you will get access to MGA sahib books.
You can also GOOGLE
Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement official website
and UK website
and USA website
Thanks.
@HP:
Your:You don’t qualify to interprate the Book of God by saying that the Book of Allah has no problem with this approach. You are clearly making stuff on your own.
So, who qualifies?????
SUFI MUHAMMAD of Tahreek-i-Taliban, Pakistan???
Who declared WHOLE OF PAKISTAN NATIONAL ASSEMBLY KAFFIR, KAFFIR, KAFFIR, in a recent past!!!!!!!!!!
Did I say that Sufi Muhammad has a right to interprate!!!!!!!!
Don’t feed words into my mouth. In English argument it is one of the Fallacies that easily disregards the argument.
—If you do believe that there is no Nabi/ Rasool after Muhammad SAW then why do you believe in Qadianism???
This pre-assumption of me believing in Qadianism only exposes your prejudices. You have no idea what I believe in.
— There can be no one “ALMOST Prophet like qualities” if that would have been the case, it would have been the Sahaba.
How do you know?
— Regarding Umar Khattab, prophet himself said that if there would have been any prophet it would have been Umar ibn Al Khattab (R.A)!!!
You just proved my point. Ummar before teaching of Muhammad was not of exemplary character. He was a sister beater. But after finding a teacher like Muhammad like you said that even Muhammad rated him so high and that does not include the extraordinary accomplishments of his as head of state. Muhammad’s teachings are distinctly unique in that they give each one of his followers the chance of being the “Khalifa of Allah” in this world. If not, then you are denying God. Read your Book.
— Shah Waliullah and others were great scholars and Mujtahideen or men of religion, but be aware of bringing them to the status of ALMOST Prophet Like Qualities. No Sunni Muslim believe this regarding this these personalities that they were ALMOST Prophets!!!!
Your response only shows your limitation of understanding English. You fail to mention my complete thought i.e. “BUT they will never be prophets.”
— You should stop being a reader of Quran but should become a student of Quran. Spend few years in recognize Islamic University so that you understand Islam!!! You don’t qualify to interprate the Book of God by saying that the Book of Allah has no problem with this approach. You are clearly making stuff on your own. Have some fear of God.
Here you go again like any man-worshiping bigoted Mullah who cannot allow people to have independent or differing opinions. Like a Mullah you are trying to be the sole guardian of “Sirat ul Mustakeen.” An independent opinion no matter how unique does not tarnish the Book as the protection of the Message is God’s responsibility.
Let me ask you:
1. Are you in the job of making non-muslims out of muslims or visa versa?
2. Do you believe in arrival of a prophet after Muhammad PBUH?
I qouted you a Hadith of Prophet Muhammad SAW regarding Umar Khattab. It said “If there would have been a prophet after me it would have been Umar Khattab” in simple english it means that since Umar khattab is only a sahabi there will be no other Prophet coming after Muhammad saw!!!!!
I just proved my argument against your bogus believe that another prophet would come.
Yes I don’t know what you believe, but if you are defending Qadianism, I take it that either you believe in otherwise there is not other reason you would. And if this is not the case, then let me know.
And what makes you think I am “mullah.” You by using this word shows that you hate the Islamic Scholarship tradition that was started by Prophet himself!!!!!!!!!!
May Allah guide you to Islam.
“I am refusing to accept any prophet new or old after the Seal of the Prophets i.e. Muhammad PBUH”
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not enough for the lovers of mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani…
say “may the curse of Allah(swt), his angels and all his creature be on mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani”
say it LOUD & CLEAR….
“I am refusing to accept any prophet new or old after the Seal of the Prophets i.e. Muhammad PBUH”
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not enough for the lovers of mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani…
say “may the curse of Allah(swt), his angels and all his creature be on mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani”
say it LOUD & CLEAR….
lets the party begin…………..
mirza e qadiyan has a long journey from islam to kufr and kizb.
his journey as a muslim to kazzab e laeen is the most interesting and full of discrepencies, fantacies, stories, lies, purgeris and deception…the same is true for the followers.
they divert the discussion from very basic allegation to the other aspects of quran and sunna in order to confuse others. but fortunately the work done by ulema e haq is such a huge and enormous that it almost impossible for any qadiyani to get the acceptance in educated muslim class.
our job is to expose qadiyanis by any and all mean necessary.
here is the glimpse of extremely valueable work done by ulema in exposing mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani.
Claim to being Muhammad(SAW) Brought to Life
“In this revelation “Mohammadur Rasoolullah wal lazeena m’ahoo, ashiddao ‘al alkuffare rohamao bainahum” (Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves [Quran 48:29]), I (Mirza Ghulam) have been named Muhammad as well as the Messenger of Allah.”
(
Ek-Ghalati-Ka-Izala, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 18, P. 207; Ek-Ghalati-Ka-Izala, P. 3/4; Rabwah, 3rd Edition)
“I have told so many times that according to the verse “Wa Akhareen Menhom” (Along with others of them…) – in the incarnate form, I am the same last of the Prophets. Twenty two years ago, God named me in Braheen-e-Ahmadia Muhammad and Ahmad and declared that I am the entity of the Holy Prophet(SAW).”
(Ek-Ghalati-Ka-Izala, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 18, P. 212; Ek-Ghalati-Ka-Izala, P. 1/8)
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“And Know that just as our Holy Prophet(SAW) was sent in the fifth thousand (the 6th century A.D.), in the same manner he was sent in the sixth thousand (the 13th century A.D.) in the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani).”
(Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 16, P. 270; Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, P. 180, 1st Edition, Qadian, 1902)
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“The Holy Prophet(SAW) had two advents. In other words, you may say that one mission was in the reincarnated form. It was promised that the Holy prophet(SAW) would be sent to the world once again and this was fulfilled by the advent of the Promised Messiah and the promised Mehdi (i.e. Mirza Ghulam).”
(Tuhfah-e-Golravia, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 17, P. 249;Tuhfah-e-Golravia, P. 94, 1st Edition, Qadian, 1902)
“Maseeh Mowud (The Promised Messiah) is not a separate thing from holy Prophet(pbuh), but it is he himself who has come again in this world in incarnated form….. Therefore is there any doubt that God has reincarnated Muhammad again in Qadian?”
(Kalimat-ul-Fasl, P.104-105, Review of Religions, Qadian, March 1915)
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“Thus does any doubt remain that God has sent Muhammad (pbuh) again in Qadian to fulfill his promise?”
(Kalimat-ul-Fasl by Mirza Basheer Ahmad, Review of Religions, P.105, No.3, Vol.14)
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“Blessed is the head of the 14th century whence he descended like the moon through darkness. Muhammad has now come reincarnated as Ahmad Mujtaba (Mirza Ghulam) to help the (Muslim) Ummah. The reality of the rebirth became manifest to me when the Mirza declared to be Mustafa (Muhammad) incarnate.”
(Al-Fadl, May 28, 1928, Qadian)
mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani take a turn and claimed that he is as blessed as Nabi e Kareem(saw);
“When I am the holy Prophet incarnate and when all the accomplishments of Muhammad along with his prophethood are reflected, by the incarnate manner, on the mirror of my shadiness, then where is that man who had claimed to be a prophet in a separate capacity?”
(
Ek-Ghalati-Ka-Izala, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 18, P. 212; Ek-Ghalati-Ka-Izala, P. 8/10)
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The person who makes a difference between me and the Mustafa has neither seen me nor recognized me.”
(Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 16, P. 259; Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, P. 171)
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“Owing to total resemblance, no difference, whatsoever, existed between the Promised Messiah (Mirza Ghulam) and the holy prophet(SAW), so much so that even the personalities of the two are virtually one and the same. Mirza of Qadian has himself said: ‘His(SAW) person has become my Person’.”
(Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, P. 171)
Astaghfirullah
“The entity of the Promised Messiah (Mirza Ghulam), in the sight of Allah, is the entity of the holy Prophet(SAW). In other words, in the records of Allah there is no difference or conflict between the Promised Messiah and the holy Prophet(SAW). Rather they both share the same honor, the same rank, the same status, and the same name. Although verbally they are two, yet in reality, they are one and the same.”
(Al-Fadl, Vol. 3, No. 37, September 16, 1915; Qadiani Religion, P. 207/275, Lahore, 9th Edition)
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“In the previous article published in Al-Fadl, dated 16th September 1915, by the grace of Allah, I have proved that the promised Messiah (Mirza of Qadian) stands for the entity of the holy Prophet(SAW), in the matter of name, work, advent, place and status. Or in other words, you may say that just as the holy prophet(SAW) was sent in the fifth thousand (of the worlds), in the same way, he has now been incarnated in the Promised Messiah along with his entire accomplishments.”
(Al-Fadl, October 28, 1915; Qadiani Religion, P. 209, Lahore, 9th Edition)
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“Every messenger was granted accomplishments and perfections according to his capacity and performance in varying degrees, but the Promised Messiah (Mirza Ghulam) was granted prophethood when he had attained all the accomplishments of the Prophethood of Muhammad(SAW) and was qualified to be called a shadow prophet. Thus, this shadow prophethood did not make the steps of the Promised Messiah lagg behind, but it pushed them forward to such an extent that it brought him on equal footing with the holy Prophet(SAW).”
(Kalimat-ul-Fasl, P. 113, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad Qadiani)
along with these claim,came a demand to send “durood” upon him…(lanatullahay alal kazibeen)
“One of the objections of the ignorants is also this that the followers of this man (Mirza) apply on him the words ['alaihe assalato wa assalam] and to say this is Haraam. The answer to this is that I am the Promised Messiah, and leave aside the saying of Salaat and Salaam, holy Prophet himself said that he who finds him, convey his salaam to him; and in all Hadiths at hundreds of places Salaat-o-Salaam is mentioned for the Promised Messiah. When such words about me are said by The Prophet, Sahaba has said, rather God has said, then how can it be Haraam for my Jama’at to say such words for me.”
(Arbain, Roohany Khazaen, Vol.17 P.349; Risala Durood Shareef, Arbain No.2 )
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“Thus according to the verse (of Quran) ‘O people of the faith! Send your Salat on Him and salute Him with the Salutation (33:56) and according to those Hadiths in which there are instructions to send Durood on Holy Prophet pbuh, sending Durood on Hazrat Maseeh Mowud is just as necessary as it is on the holy Prophet pbuh.”
(Risala Durood Shareef, by Mohd Ismael Qadiani, P.136)
mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani was like an uncontolled “saand”
in his claims. after that he claimed to be superior to hazrat mohammed (saw) (maazAllah)
“The various accomplishments which were bestowed upon all other Prophets were concentrated in a greater degree in the holy prophet. All those accomplishments have been conferred on me through the holy Prophet by means of the shadow system. That is why I bear the name of Adam, Ibrahim, Moses, Noah, Daud, Yousuf, Solaiman, Yahya, Jesus, etc. All the previous Prophets were incarnations of special attributes of the holy Prophet(SAW), but I am a reincarnation of all these special attributes of the holy Prophet.
(Malfoozat, Vol. 3, P. 270, Rabwah)
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“And Allah sent down upon me the bounty of the holy Prophet and made it perfect; and he drew towards me the kindness and generosity of the merciful Prophet, so that I became one with him. Thus, he who joins my group, joins the group of the companions (Sahaba) of my Leader, the best of messengers. It is not hidden from those who have the ability to think that this is what the words “Akhareen Menhom” (others of them) mean. The person who makes a difference between me and the Mustafa has neither seen me nor recognized me.”
(Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 16, P. 258-259; Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, P. 171)
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“Many Thrones descended from the heaven but thy throne has been placed the highest.”
(Tadhkirah, P. 346/643, Second Edition – Mirza’s “Revelation”; Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, P. 89)
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“One who denies that the mission of the Prophet(SAW) is related to the 6th thousand (13th century) as it was related to 5th thousand (6th century), denies the truth and the text of the Quran and is among the zalemeen (gone astray). The truth is that the spiritual power of the holy Prophet(SAW) at the end of the 6th thousand (13th century in Mirza Ghulam), i.e. these days, is much stronger, more complete and stronger than in those early years. Nay, it is like the fourteenth (moonlit) night (full moon).”
(Khutbah-e-Ilhamiah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 16, P. 271-272; Khutbah-e-Ilhamiah, P. 181)
@dr Jawwad khan:
dr sahib,
if you are bent on quoting Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib FROM HIS OPPONENTS BOOKS, then i can NOT do anything to convince you that YOU ARE WRONG.
dr sahib,
To justify your title of “Doctor” (be it MBBS, MD, PhD, DSc) it is incumbent upon you that you MUST read point of view of those who who consider MGA sahib as Mujjaddid of 14th Islamic Century. I will give links to article on Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement that answer your objections. It will be in next post.
By the way:
Neither TAZKIRA (or Tadkira) Nore MALFOOZAT is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib books.
Check links:
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/cont-hmga.htm
The summary of discussion so far:
* If Rashid is CORRECT i.e. Mirza claimed to be a Mujaddid only, then no harm done to his followers or his rejectors for the simple fact that belief in a mujaddid Mirza is not fundamental to be a Muslim.
* If Rashid is INCORRECT i.e. Mirza did claim to be an actual prophet like Muhammad, Moses etc, then let God take care of him and his followers, because such a claim challenges the basic doctrine of Islam.
* If hamarapakistan1947 and Dr. Jawwad are CORRECT in forcing their understanding that Mirza did actually claim to be a prophet like Muhammad or Moses etc, then they have every right to what they claim. At least in their own view they are doing a great service to Islam. However, it would be advisable not to curse, because Muhammad never cursed the non-believers.
* If hamarapakistan1947 and Dr. Jawwad are INCORRECT i.e. Mirza did not claim to be prophet like Muhammad or Moses, then both hamarapakistan1947 and Dr. Jawwad have to deal with their God for forcing their false claim on someone.
But, Rashid does bring up an interesting point i.e. the big elephant that is being ignored in this room. Has any one actually read Mirza’s books themselves and not relied on out-of-context excerpts written here and there in secondary sources?
If anyone making any statement about anyone be it Mirza or anyone else, it is a moral and religious duty of a Muslim to investigate the original source of information before making any opinion and not to rely on hearsay.
49:6. O you who believe! if a wicked person brings you any news, examine it carefully, lest you should harm some people in ignorance and afterwards you may have to repent for what you did
P.S. While reading literature, one has to keep one’s mind open to the metaphorical nuances e.g. Sher-e-Bangal Maulvi Fazlul-Haq was one of the main members of Pakistan movement. Unless Fazlul-Haq actually showed a real tail of a lion, his title only means that he has some courageous and daring attributes of being a lion and no more.
If someone makes a claim of prophethood to me, my first question to him will be to show me his Kalima and his Book. Unless he can show both, I would take it as a metaphorical claim only. I do not think Mirza either had a Kalima or a divine Book.
Similarly, it is a common experience while traveling in Pakistan that one comes across painted signs in buses/vans/taxis/rickshaws where “YaAllah” and “YaMuhammad” are written in pairs. Clearly, Muhammad cannot be invoked like God, but people use the word “YaMuhammad” out of love for a great man without making him a God. Essentially, in their daily lives, Pakistanis do use lots of metaphors and allegories.
@Jay:
“I myself would be very much skeptical of a person suddenly showing up at my door and claiming to be Jesus. I would probably call police.”
Jay, please don’t forget to tell police to take that “jesus” to Rashid. I will admit him in my acute care psychiatric ward. I will put him on zyprexa+cogentin. He will be okay.
BTW, i have already treated at least 3 “jesus”, “john the baptist” and of course “mary”. And numerous ladies who are “married to jesus”.
Rashid after this comment you claim to be a Muslim!!!!!
Seems like you also don’t believe in the Second coming of Hazrat Isa (Jesus Christ).
Oh I forgot you think that Mirza was a reincarnated Isa right!! Just like Mirza himself said.
May Allah show you Rashid and Jay the guidance to Islam.
Quite right jay!
why shouldn’t we learn more about qadiyaniat and teach others about it?
Mirza and His Family – Servants of the Imperialism
Mirza Ghulam proudly wrote:
“My father was a well-known landlord in this country and he enjoyed great eminence in the Government’s offices. He was a true devotee and well wisher of the British Government. In the mutiny of 1857 (the Muslim independence movement against colonialism is called ‘mutiny’ by Mirza), my father supplied fifty horses and riders to aid the British Government. For this favor to the Government, he was very popular among the officials.”
(Izala-e-Auham, P. 58, footnote)
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“The benevolent Government is aware of the fact that we are from among their servants, their sympathizers and well wishers. We have come to their aid with a firm mind in every hour of need. My father was held in close and high esteem by the Government; and our services to this Government held clear distinction. I do not think that the Government has forgotten these services of ours. My father, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza, son of Mirza Ata Muhammad Al-Qadian, was a great well wisher and friend of this government and enjoyed great respect from among them. Our loyalty has been proven beyond doubt. Rather our fidelity was proven among the people and became clear to the government officials. The Government may confirm this from the officers who came to this side and lived among us; so that they may tell what sort of life we lived, and how faithful we have been in serving their Government.”
(Noor-ul-Haq, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 8, P. 36-37; Noor-ul-Haq, Vol. 1, P. 27-28)
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“I come from a family which is out and out loyal to this government. My father, Mir Ghulam Murtaza, who was considered its well-wisher, used to be granted a chair in the Governor’s Darbar (cabinet) and has been mentioned by Mr. Griffin in his ‘History of the Princes of Punjab’. In 1857, he helped the British government beyond his means, that is he procured fifty (50) cavaliers and horses right during the time of the mutiny. He was considered by the government to be its loyal supporter and well-wisher. A number of testimonials of appreciation received by him from the officers have unfortunately been lost. Copies of three of them, however, which had been published a long time ago, are reproduced in the margin (in English). Then, after the death of my grandfather, my elder brother Mirza Ghulam Qadir remained occupied with service to the government and when the evil-doers encountered the forces of the British government on the highway of Tanmmun, he participated in the battle on the side of the British Government (under General Nicholson he killed several freedom fighters). At the time of the death of my father and brother, I was sitting in the sidelines; but, since then, I have been helping the British for seventeen years with my pen.”
(Kitab-ul-Barriah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 13, P. 4, 5, 6, 7;
Shahadat-ul-Quran, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 6, P. 385-387;
Ishtihar Wajib al-Izhar, Sept. 20, 1897, P. 3-7; appended with Kitab-ul-Barriah)
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“I am scion of a family which the English Government acknowledges to be faithful to it. British officers have also admitted that my father and my people are amongst those who served the Government in all sincerity and with heart and soul. I can not find the words to express my homage and gratitude to the beneficent Government on account of the peace and composure which we have found as subjects of the Government. For this reason, we – myself, my father and my brother – have girded up our loins that we will exhibit the favors and advantages of this Government, make obedience to it incumbent on the people and embed it in their hearts.”
(Tabligh-e-Risalat, Vol. 7, P. 8-9)
@hamarapakistan
simply a great job……
@ Jay:
I welcome your thoughts and your comments. I have however deleted your last comment because it was not regarding the post up there.
I also agree that we should have healthy discussion. But they also should be based on logic. If Evidence is provided from the Quran and Hadith, that should be enough as a proof.
as I have provided above the verses from the Quran, that Jesus Christ was ascended to Allah, however, in your comment that I deleted, you said Jesus was not crucified but he died later. You may believe whatever you want to believe, but a Muslim believe in what was brought by Prophet Muhammad SAW.
Peace be upon you too.
@hamarapakistan1947:
Your comment: You may believe whatever you want to believe, but a Muslim believe in what was brought by Prophet Muhammad SAW.
Hazoor HP1947:
What do you say about Muhammad Asad, translator of Holy Quran???
Do you consider him to be a Muslim???
Check following article about Muhammad Asad on blog:
All Things Pakistan. You may also like to read my comment on page 6 and that of Dr. Zahid Aziz on page 7 in comments:
Muhammad Asad (1900-1992): The Pakistani Connection
Posted on April 16, 2007
http://pakistaniat.com/2007/04/16/muhammad-mohammad-mohammed-asad-message-quran-koran-road-mecca-pakistan/comment-page-6/#comments
Enjoy or declare Muhammad Asad to be another Kaffir. Choice is your!
Choice is not mine. I have no right and authority to declare any one Kaffir.
I haven’t studied Muhammad Asad and until then i will not have any opinion regarding him based on some comments a post!!
However, for Qadianis there are enough evidences from Quran and Ahadith, that shows Qadianis believe which are in direct conflict. As the entire article by Mawlana Mawdudi shows, and the article by Kashif Hafeez.
Choice is yours whether you want to believe in Islam or Qadianism/ Ahmadinism or Bahaii or Whatever.
@HP:
“I haven’t studied Muhammad Asad and until then i will not have any opinion regarding him based on some comments a post!!”
If you have not studied Muahmmad Asad and refrening from making any opinion, THEN WHY ARE YOU MAKING OPINION on Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib. You have not studied MGA. I HAVE STUDIED HIM. He is NOT what you are saying. Maudidi has NOT studied him. MGA is NOT what Maududi is saying.
If you find hard to swallow Muhammad Asad i can refer you to Dr. Shabbir Ahmad translator of Holy Quran and many others, including Bosian Muslim translators of Holy Quran…THEY ALL SAY JESUS (ISA AS) IS D-E-A-D.!!! PERIOD.
yea send me the links and authors. I will see who the author of those translations are.
Based on what u are saying, it means that for past 1300 yrs, Muslim were understanding Islam incorrectly and until 20th Century, with a “returning Messiah” of urs known as Mirza Qadiani, now translations have Jesus Christ as dead.
Subhanallah.
I need names of the translators.
Mirza came in 20th century, he can’t know something that Muslims didn’t know for 1300 yrs, including the first three generations of Muslims. Have you read Ahadith of Prophet Muhammad SAW??? or do you disregard them!!!!
I am reading a book on Islam by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani The Essence of Islam and in it he clearly says that he recieved revelations and inspirations.
Also that he has physically met with deads. He hand shoke the dead when he was passing by a grace, he has met and hand shoke Prophet Muhammad and Mirza mentioened a couple more things.
I don’t know how can any one defend this claim!!
What is the bases, there is nothing in Quran or Sunnah regarding this?????
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