Today I finished reading the book by Iain Adamson “Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian” published by Elite International Publications in 1989. Before I dive into my thoughts on this book, I would like to present here brief info regarding who Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was.
Brief Intro:
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani
Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was born in India on February 13th, 1835 (Iain Adamson) or in 1839 or 1840 (Qadianism by Hasan Ali Nadwi). He was a public debator, preacher, and spend most of his youth in debating Christian missionaries and Hindu group Arya Samaj. He defended Islam, became famous in those bad times when Muslims had lost the War of Independence of 1857. Many Islamic Scholars and leaders who participated in the freedom struggle were hanged by the imperial British governemnt and series of political, social and cultural crackdown was undertaken in order to minimze the possible uprising of Indian, especially by Indian Muslims.
In this era of desparity, Mirza called himself a reformer (Mujaddid) and then called himself a Promised Messiah. He started preaching that Hazrat Isa ibn Maryam, Jesus Christ (Peace and Blessing be upon him) had died and that God has sent him as a Promised Messiah to unite all the religions and bring peace to this world. This angered Christians and Muslims both, because both hold the belief in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
When he had enough supporters and financial stability, he declared that instead of inspirations from God, he started receiving revelations from God and that in those revelations God revealed to him that he was a Prophet in Islam. Mirza declared that although Prophet Muhammed (Peace and Blessings be upon him) was the last Messenger of Allah (God) with the final Sharia (code/way of life), he is the chosen one- a prophet, a Promised Messiah- and he claimed to affirming to the Sharia of Muhammad without abrogating any thing from the teachings of Muhammad!
He, however, abrogated the obligation of Jihad on Muslims, declared himself a Prophet even though it is clear and has been for all these centuries that Prophet Muhammad Arabi ibn Muttalib was the Last Prophet and The Messenger of Allah. He also abrogated that Jesus was saved from the death and that Jesus would return in the time of wars and chaos, in order to put an end to the Anti-Christ, and bringing peace to the world (well Mirza thought the he was playing this role somehow!). He also preached and believed that Indians and espacially Indian Muslims should not oppose British government. He had close contacts with British imperial government like his father, and in return British government was kind and graceful towards his family.
Besides this, by the end of his life he has declared all the Muslims as Kafirs (disbelievers), which they of course were in his message; and Mirza had established Qadian as his center with the same role as Makkah has to Islam.
The Book by Iain Adamson:
This book by Iain Adamson, was written as to be a biography of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. However, it lacked all the academic rules of a biographical writing. During my entire reading, I was not able to locate a single cited source of all the direct quotes and paraphrases and dates he was using and refering to.
In the acknowledgments, the author stated
“I sought help of Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, The Fourth Successor of The Promised Messiah. He opened the Movement’s archives to me. He placed no restrictions on what I wrote.
To Khalifatul Masih IV therefore, my sincere thanks….”
Well that was good to know who supported the author with his research, but the book leaves the reader wondering what evidence he used and how reliable those evidences are! I was also left wondering on 2-3 occasion when the author quoted a “Muslim Scholar” praising Mirza in these words without any name, rank, location, citation or source “Says a Muslim Scholar…” [Pg 40, Adamson] and “Another Muslim Divine wrote…” [Pg 53, Ibid]. I don’t understand what kind of divinity the author is talking about and why his name is not mentioned because after this quote of this so called Divine, the author mentions the name of the Hindu leader of Arya Samaj, Pandit Lekh Ram, in 3 lined Paragraph (althought that too without any source!).
The most astonishing part of this reading, which was also annoying was that Mr Iain Adamson didn’t even bothered to cite the sources of his alleged sayings of Prophet Muhammad, known to the Muslims as Hadith which are preserved to this day and the study of it is called Hadith Sciences. Mr Adamson also didn’t bother to cite the source of the verses of the Holy Quran he used either in justifying the claims of Mirza’s prophethood or quoting Mirza’s own sayings!
On Page 176, Mr Iain Adamson wrote:
He (Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani) recalled the words of Ayesha, the wife of Prophet Muhammad when she said, “Say ‘He (Muhammad) is the Seal of the Prophets’, but do not say, ‘There will be no prophet after him.”
He (Mirza) continued, “If there is no longer any prophethood in Islam, then be sure that Islam has also died like other religions and does not possess any distinctive sign.” [Page 176, Adamson.]
Well first of all the simple logical argument I have is, if that saying was true, how come for 12-13 centuries Muslims didn’t know that another Prophet was coming! It is not to be found in any of the legit text unless fabricated or mistranslated!
The returning of Promised Messiah didn’t mean that he was coming as a new Prophet. A hadith in Sahih Al Bukhari is clear in the simplistic language, that when Jesus Christ would come he would follow the Sharia of Muhammad, meaning he would follow the last and the final Sharia without any abrogation and without any innovation by anyone after Islam has been established, which is also stated in the Holy Quran.
“…This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. [Chapter 5 Al Maida verse 3. Taken from Quran Explorer]
The Hadith clearly says:
“Sahih Al Bukhari-Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7).”
Also this hadith along with many other Ahadith and Verses of the Holy Quran clearly says that the Son of Mary i.e. Jesus (peace be upon him) will descend. Mirza Ghulam neither descend nor he was the Son of Mary, instead he was the 2nd son of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza.
So without getting into the methodology of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani, this book by Iain Adamson is so far the most unacademic biogrphical book I have ever read.
After reading this unacademic biography of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, the author has opened a door or reasearch and blog posts for me. Inshallah, by the will of Allah, I will write more on this subject, or republish contents on this subject.
May Allah guide all muslims to sirat al mustaqeen- the straight path. May Allah give us the knowledge and understanding of the Deen of Allah.
I would like to conclude with few of the sayings of Salf Saliheen, the pious predecessors, who were close to the Prophet Muhammad, the servant of Allah; close to his companions; and the companions of the companions of the Messenger of Allah.
It is authentically reported that Allaah’s Messenger said,
“Stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided Caliphs after me, cling to that with your molar teeth and beware of new matters, for every innovation is misguidance.” Reported by Ahmad, Abu Daawood (Eng. trans. 3/1294/no.4590), at-Tirmidhee (no. 2676), Ibn Maajah (no. 42), ad-Daarimee (no. 96) and Ibn Abee ‘Aasim in as-Sunnah (no. 54).
Imam Barbahaaree said:
“Know that Islam is the Sunnah, and the Sunnah is Islaam and one of them cannot be established without the other.”
‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab, rahimahullaah, said:
“There is no excuse for anyone going astray thinking that he is upon guidance. Nor for abandoning guidance thinking it to be misguidance, since the affairs have been made clear, the proof established and the excuse cut off.” That is because the Sunnah and the Jamaa’ah have consolidated and safeguarded all of the Religion. It has been made clear to the people, so it is upon the people to comply and follow.
Al-Marwazee reports in as-Sunnah (no. 95) that ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd Allah-’Azeez said:
“There is no excuse for anyone, after the Sunnah, to be misguided upon error which he thought was guidance.”
Statements taken from Kitaab Sharh us-Sunnah by Al-Barbahaaree. English Translation by Abu Talhah Dawud Burbank.
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Dear sir,
you are one of the rare people who have actually tried to read some literature independently, and that alone is worthy of praise.
I would like to point out that Mr. Adamson’s biography is not the most comprehensive work on the life of promised messiah (as).. More extensive work is available in urdu books. Secondly, your objection that no references were cited in the book is a bit lame. Mr. Adamson has not cited references to theological points as he is no expert in islamic theology. For references you can read the ahmadiyya literature.
As for your assertion about Jesus not being a prophet on his return, you are wrong. Please find the Hadith of Nuwwas ibn Summ’aan, in Sahih Muslim. If you can’t find it, let me know and I will provide a reference.
I have included the cited reference in my article with a link with exact location so that anyone may read. If you do claim to know that there is a hadith that is in contradiction to the one I have mentioned, please do send me the link and I will counter check that. As far as
you can verify what I have said by reading his book. Any biography should have citations and one doesn’t need to be expert in theology for citing reference for theological points. Since he got help from this so called Khalifa I am sure he could have asked him for some help!!!
From academic standard that piece was very unacademic. Thats what I said, there is nothing lame about it!
I think the video I posted has enough evidence.
Maybe these videos will help.
& I am still waiting for your claimed Hadith!!! Do you have it or you don’t??
The maulvi in the video has quoted a hadith. but if you dont’t believe it, here is my reference
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/041.smt.html
Book 041, number 7015.
I will provide the text where Jesus on his second comeing is called Nabiullah
The first of them would pass the lake of Tibering and drink out of it. And when the last of them would pass, he would say: There was once water there. Jesus and his companions would then be besieged here (at Tur, and they would be so much hard pressed) that the head of the ox would be dearer to them than one hundred dinirs and Allah’s Apostle, Jesus, and his companions would supplicate Allah, Who would send to them insects (which would attack their necks) and in the morning they would perish like one single person. Allah’s Apostle, Jesus, and his companions would then come down to the earth and they would not find in the earth as much space as a single span which is not filled with their putrefaction and stench. Allah’s Apostle, Jesus, and his companions would then again beseech Allah, Who would send birds whose necks would be like those of bactrin camels and they would carry them and throw them where God would will.
Dear lutf!
i couldn’t understand that how can a sane person could believe on the prophethood of this mentally retarded person….
his kufr and mental retardness and his lies are is as obvious as a sun in broad day light. and his books itself testifies his falseness.
Didn’t you ever feel disgustingness for calling this man as your prophet?
Embrace islam and avoid the eternity in hell.
Avoid the day when the people like ghulam qadiyani will take many people into the hell for the never ending torment.
revert back to islam my dear..because it is the only way for success.
@ Lutf:
The Hadith in Sahih Muslim Book 041, number 7015- tht you quoted it says that “Jesus, Apostle of Allah”
well no one is denying that Jesus was the Apostle/ Prophet/Messenger of Allah. If I would do so I will be Kafir then!!! A muslim has to believe in all the prophets and messengers from Adam to Muhammad.
What I quoted in my Article the HAdith from Sahih Bukhari is clear & simple
“Sahih Al Bukhari-Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7).”
Since Jesus Alaihe Salam, never died he remains to be the Prophet of Allah untill the day he dies. His prophethood didn’t end with is lifting up to heavens. As Bukhari Hadith states he would come and would follow the Sharia of Muhammad becoz thts the final Sharia.
Question is: Is Mirza the prophet or not. NO he is not because he is not Isa ibn Maryam. As I have mentioned in the article that Mirza is the son of Mirza Murtaza.
No new Prophet would come. Thats why Musailma was a Kazzab, yusuf few yrs ago was a Kazzab, Bahaii was a Kazzab, and tht why Abu Bakar Radioallahu anho waged Jihad against the False Prophets and Many hufaz gave their lives agaist Musailmah!!!!!
Islam is very simple religion, just accept it as it.
May Allah show all of us guidance ameen.
Umar sahib,
Islam is indeed a simple faith. But the version that you follow is not the simple and original Islam Holy Prophet (saw) brought. You believe in a number of things which do not belong to the pure, complete and final message of Quran. Abrogated verses, penalty of death to apostates, twisted interpretation of jihad, superstitions etc are common beliefs among the majority of muslims. You may deny some of them, but please check with your mullah first.
The concept that Jesus would return from heavens because he was lifted up to the skies 2000 years ago is a wrong belief which has no basis in Quran. Jesus (as) died a natural death as all prophets before him. He was a prophet for the Israelites (jews) and had a job to do. God does not withdraw his messengers from the world for the “fear” of failure. You can read the ahmadiyya arguments and proofs for this matter on http://www.alislam.org.
Now, the ahadith which refer to the “descent” of Jesus (as) are allegorical in nature. i.e., Muslims were given a good news about a Messiah just like Jews were sent a Messiah to reform them. He is named as Isa ibn Maryam in Ahadith to show his significance and purpose. Also, this person is called Nabiullah by RusoolAllah (saw). Also, this person is known as Imam Mahdi. Ibn-e-Majjah Kitab al-Fitan bab shuddat-uz-Zaman it is stated by the Holy Prophet (saw) that “La-al Mahdi illa Isa”, means there is no Mahdi except Isa. In Musnad ahmad it is stated, “Kyfa antum iza nazala Isa ibn-e-Maryam fikum Imaman mahdiyyan hakaman adalan”. How will you be with Isa (as) will descend among you as Imam Mahdi and Hakam and Adal.
Mr.Lutf,
I see you have just claimed that you follow the origonal version of islam, well you made me laugh when you claimed to follow the origonal true islam brought by The Holy Prophet Muhammad S.A.W (peace be upon him).
then in the very next paragraph u claim something which is totally conflicting Quranic beliefs and you give a reference of stupid website which was created by a bunch of disbelievers and manipulators who are just trying to corrupt Muslims with their false arguments.
Your problem is you lack knowledge, you should study urself before believing them.
Surah Nisa
Verse 157-158
states that “That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of God”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, God raised him up unto the himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise.
which proves your claims wrong…
Dear Lutf, No one has said that Allah took Isa out of fear as you stated:
You are either assuming stuff, or making stuff up.
The Sharia has been established, and so is the Islam. The last KHutba of Rasullullah is clear enough for any sane person in which he SAW has said that Islam has been chosen and perfected and know that there will be no prophet after me (Muhammad SAW).
The Quran is clear in this regards the Hazrat ISA would descend, that he was not crucified and that he was saved and would be send.
Yes some Muslims do believe in superstition, but Islam is realistic and not superstitious. WHat Qadianism is based on superstition. Previous posts on this regards have been placed here on this website.
Please consult a knowledgeable person. For us Islam is what was revealed on the Holy Prophet SAW and that is that no new prophet would come. AS Umer Sultan has said before and I would just quote:
Please revert to Islam, and leave Qadianism.
Assalam-o-Alaikum minatabaul Huda.
Salaam
if u r a muslim not a qadiani plz can u tell me about that website is made by muslims or qadianis(non muslims) .i am confused on that website.
http://www.irshad.org/exposed.php
HamaraPakistan,
Why was Jesus (as) raised to the skies? Please explain.
If it was to “preserve” him to be sent after the Holy Prophet (saw), then all the theology around end of prophethood by the orthodoxy becomes obsolete and meaningless. According to you Jesus will be the last prophet after RusoolAllah (saw). I don’t know in what sense he can not be the last prophet, he will return after the Holy Prophet (saw) and he will pass away after Holy Prophet (saw). This clearly makes him the final messenger.
Secondly, please do not twist history by stating that Abu Bakr (ra) waged war against false prophets. His war was against rebellion and refusal of people to pay zakat. Mussailimah claimed prophethood during the life time of Holy Prophet (saw), but Holy Prophet (saw) did not wage war against him.
Ahmadis have the correct belief on this matter. There will be no prophet after RusoolAllah (saw), new or old, but the one prophecized by him. This prophet will be the prophet only because of his complete devotion to Holy Prophet (saw) and His being recepient of Divine revelation. He will not bring a new law or change anything in the shariah brought by the Quran.
I am not saying anything. Go read Sahih Bukhari is clear. I am not going to debate your false accusations and twist meanings and interpretations that you have learned from Mirza.
I request you to take Islam as is, that is established by Muhammad SAW. You can get answers to all of ur questions in Quran-o-Sunnah. And I think Umer Sultan has posted a Hadith which clearly answers ur questions.
May Allah show us all guidance, Ameen.
Musailma Kazzab did declared himself to be a prophet during prophet.
But his wife declared after the death of Muhammad SAW!!!
DO you know that part of the History!
Abu Bakar Siddiqe waged war against false prophets, and against rejecters of Zakah!
I follow the same Islam as taught by the Holy Prophet (saw). He instructed us to accept Imam Mahdi too. That is exactly what I have done.
“Sahih Al Bukhari-Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7).”
I believe in this hadith. Son of Mary has also been called Imam Mahdi. Please see the ahadith I have quoted.
Dear Umer Sultan:
For you to call your reserach comprehensive, you at least need to read point of view of those who consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as appointee of Allah (Mamur-min-Allah).
Please check the following links. Thanks:
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/cont-ahm.htm
http://aaiil.org/text/books/bookmain.shtml
http://aaiil.org/urdu/books/mainbook.shtml
well I don’t understand how you guys believe him to be a Mamur of Allah- an appointe when Mirza have clearly declared himself to be a Promised, incarnation of Jesus, and Allah knows what else.
If he was really a appointee, there wouldn’t be any problem between Ahmadis and Muslims would there be.
I believe in Unity of Muslims, but its just so sad that this whole issue of Qadianism vs. Islam has taken place.
WE have the Quran and Sunnah and the Jama’at of Muhammad SAW, why then such fights and innovations!
Why accepting Mirza means rejecting the Tabien and Taba Tabieen.
Umer sahib, I have exactly the same sentiments as you. Islamic unity as well as unifying the whole humanity is described as one of the purposes of Imam Mahdi.
When you refer to Mirza Sahib’s claims in terms of “re-incarnations”, you are being unfair. Tabaeen and Taba-Tabieen all believed in the coming of Imam Mahdi, as the true Khalifa of Holy Prophet (saw). So much so that he is said to resemble him in all ways possible. This can not be defined in terms of Hindu concepts of reincarnation, but the Islamic concept of “fana fir-rusul”. i.e., a person so immersed in the love of Holy Prophet (saw) that he becomes his representative in spiritual sense.
Also, if you understand the status of Imam Mahdi, he is akin to the Jewsish Messiah. i.e., a chosen one among the muslims. Isa ibn Maryam was a prophet to israelites. He was lived and passed away like all the prophets before him. Muslims have a perfect Shairah to follow, which has enabled one of the true servants of Holy Prophet (saw) to be exalted to the level of Messiah and Mahdi; exactly as prophecized by the Holy Prophet (saw).
But the ahadith are clear that Prophet Jesus didn’t die. As I mentioned a hadith in my writing. This has been the standing of the companions of the Prophet. Yes Muslims are waiting on Imam Mahdi and Jesus, but Mirza didn’t just called himself a Messeiah but he went further and declared himself to be a Prophet with no new Sharia and he nullified the Quranic commandments of Jihad. He also declared the entire Muslim Ummah as kafir because they refuse to believe in him.
Umer, No fatwa of Kufr was issued by Mirza Sahib. Yes, on a theological level, denying him would mean that you are committing kufr of a prophet of God. It does not make you a non-muslim, but a denier of Imam Mahdi. For us, kufr is the opposite of faith, not of Islam.
Jesus (as) died a natural death. Quran uses the word “Tawaffa” (death) for Jesus. Hadith that you quoted only mentions the “nuzool” (descent), which can not be taken literally. IF you see the Quranic usage of the word Nuzul, you will find that it does not mean literal descet from the heavens, but a gift from God. Like Iron and cattle are said to have descended (nuzul) from the heavens.
My I ask, what will be the status of those who deny Jesus (as) after he descends from the heavens literally?
i don’t understand why Mirza is being called a Prophet and then he is also called Imam Mahdi. The meaning you are giving is the interpretation Mirza gave. If Jesus had died a natural death, Prophet Muhammad SAW would not have said so many recorded Sahih Ahadith about his return, & about Dajjal.
Jesus AS would come and he would follow the Sharia of Muhammad becoz that is the final Sharia. He will unite the world, bring peace to the world and those who will be against Jesus (with Dajjal) they all will be killed. Ahadith are clear on it. I don’t understand why we are even discussing this!
Imam Mahdi will be a prophet. As I asked you before, what will be the status of those who reject Jesus (as) on his second coming? Or what will be the status of those who reject Imam Mahdi?
Are muslims allowed to refuse these persons? Answer is No. And that my friend makes them prophets. (Even if they are two different persons). You can not reject prophets. Any other leader, no matter how capable or pious can be rejected, but Prophets are appointed by God and according to Quranic definition, their rejectors are committing a grave sin.
As I mentioned before, Jesus (as) died a natural death according to Quran and Ahadith only mention “nuzul” of Jesus, not of second coming from the skies. Also, I explained that nuzul is not used in literal sense anyway.
the status of Jesus is mentioned in the hadith of my article. Please go back and read it again! I am not going to argue on these innovative interpretation of Mirza Qadiani. Islam has been established and the revelation has been seazed. Quran and Hadith are the only thing needed. Period!
Mr.Lutf,
you seriously have no idea what you are talking about, you are confused about your own beliefs. sometimes you say that Imam mehdi and Hazrat Isa are one personality then you claim that ghulam ahmed mirza was both… i couldn’t help replying to this one.
“Are muslims allowed to refuse these persons? Answer is No. And that my friend makes them prophets. (Even if they are two different persons)”
this is what you said in the above message…
You are right, we can not reject these two persons, but that doesn’t make them a Prophet.
The Holy Prophet Muhammad S.A.W (peace be upon him) is the seal of prophets. he is the final Messenger of ALLAH and there will be no Prophets or messengers after him.
Authentic proof: from the QURAN
Surah Al-Ahzab Chap 33
Verse 40
033.040
YUSUFALI: Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.
PICKTHAL: Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is ever Aware of all things.
SHAKIR: Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.
one thing more, do you really understand Quran, have you ever tried reading it ? I am unable to understand that how can you give false references of the Quran?
and the hadith you are giving reference of is not even authentic.
anyways MAY ALLAH show you the right path. AMEEN
I almost forgot to point out one simple thing…
Everybody knows that Hazrat Imam Mehdi is and would remain an “IMAM” of Muslim UMMAH then how come he is a PROPHET according to you ?
I hope you know the difference between Imam and Prophet ?
Mr. Luttf.
am the one who belive in logics bro.
check your question, here is your answer in your question
you are asking
As I asked you before, what will be the status of those who reject Jesus (as) on his second coming?
Who is denying HIS (A.S) second comming??? YOU bro
you are denying the second coming
Ghulam Ahmad called him self Isa on next succession he altered his saying as Massiha
you are asking to explain NUZUL do you belive in Nuzul of Isa? then why you asking the meaning of Nuzul?
you are accepting that there will be NUZUL of ISA before that you said ISA died natural death
Now point is NUZUL
did ghulam ahmad came to this world through any type of NUZUL?
No he came the natural way as we all here thats not NUZUL!
ok now i read a hadith given above that isa and imam mahdi is the same person ok i dont know at extent is it true because i have a little experience and knowledge i accept it
But Ghulam ahmad called him ISA then why you are denying the NUZUL of ISA? because ghulam ahmad forgot that ISA and IMAM MAHDI will be the same person then he changed his mind OH! see What is did changed my status ITS REAL WORLD NOT THE FACEBOOK THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR STATUS AND THE LAST ONE WILL DISAPPEAR WE HAVE PROVE OF HIS WORDS THAT HE SAID HIMSELF AS ISA
and you denying him hahah Good you are denying ur prophet that he didnt said that oH that was a mistake by our prophet
ok here is the point that he is Imam mahdi (nauzubillah)
ISA and IMAM MAHDI ARE THE SAME. thats a hadith so you have to belive in it that isa will come back from skies as it is in Quran that allah took him from earth
there was your question that there will be another prophet after Muhammad PBUH. bro ISA A.S will accept ISLAM as his religion he will not preach his religion he will be muslim.
If Mirza was Imam Mehdi (naozobillah) or prophet and Jesus and alot of things mentioned (astagfirullah) why has he not finished the Dajjal and everything and many Hadiths says that after Mehdi there will be a great war and muslims will win and rule the world ???? yahan to mirza ne jihad hi mana kardiya Jung kya larta………… agar jesus aa hi gaye to Dajjal kahan reh gaya he will come before Hazrat Isa and Hazrat Isa will kill him, mirza to washroom me dead mil gaya, dajjal kahan gaya
I think we TRUE MUSLIMS should not even indulge in such STUPID talks.. We should not even think of comparing Mirza (SO CALLED PROPHET) with HAZRAT MOHAMMAD SAW (OUR ACTUAL, LAST PROPHET)…
MAY ALLAH GIVE THESE AHMEDIs SOME GUIDANCE, AND SAVE THEM FROM THE FIRE OF HELL….
ASTAGHFIRULLAH
Assalam o alaikum
i needed sum info bout QADIYANIS… n i got a pretty gud idea ow dere SO-CALLED faith!!!
anyways, wat i wana know is….. how to treat Qadyanis???
if a frnd of urs turns out to b a QADYANI…………… aftr 3 yeas ow ur relation….. well.. dats some sort ow a situation i am in…
… thnks
Assalam-o-alaikum,
Treat them as you would treat everyone else, the way Muhammad SAW treated the people around him.
If he is your friend then frankly invite him to Islam. Don’t force him, ridicule him, or make fun of him or his belief.
Educate yourself about Islam and use the authentic sources of Islam to persuade him. Remember guidance come from Allah subhanallah, our job is to convey the message in the best way!!!
Asalamualikum every one hear and for LUTF i have many things to say and but at first I say that prophet MOHMMED is the last messenger of Allah.
The Holy Prophet Muhammad S.A.W (peace be upon him) is the seal of prophets. he is the final Messenger of ALLAH and there will be no Prophets or messengers after him.
Authentic proof: from the QURAN
Surah Al-Ahzab Chap 33
Verse 40
Dear MZ please don’t follow any path blindley first see to the basics you are a muslim if you onley belive that
“THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MOHMMED IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH”
THIS IS THE LAST UMMAH AND AFTER THIS NO UMMAH WILL COME NO PROPHET WILL COME SO TILL QUYAMAT (DAY OF JUDGEMENT ) MOHMMED (SWT) IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH
“AND IF YOU BELIVE ANY OTHER PERSON AS MESSENGER FOR THIS UMMAH THEN YOU ARE A KAFIR”
THIS TO ALL HEAR
IF YOU WANT TO ENTER THE HELL FOR ALL TIME THEN DO WHAT EVER YOU WNAT TO DO .
AND GL THIS IS FOR YOU
YOU CANT ASK FOR BLESSINGS OF ALLAH FOR THOSE WHO ARE KAFIR
just to let you know, GL was asking for guidance, not blessings.
as a broadminded unbiased person i think that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a liar and i request the people who believe in him to rivert to true islam or any other religion
What is broadmindedness in your quote.
Broadmindedness is that everyone has his reservation.
If don’t understand or don’t want to understand something then you shouldn’t spread hatred.
Have you ever read one single book of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS?
Please read one book of him thoroughly, at least to say something about him.
MOST OF QADYANI PEOPLE HAVE NOT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OWN RELIGON.ACTULLY ALL QADIYANI DEPEND ON SCHOLAR OF QADYANI RELIGON.ALLAH SAY MOST OF TIMES IN QURAN MUHAMMAD PBUH IS LAST MESSENGER OF ALLAH.
IN PAKISTAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD QADYANI PEOPLE SPEND LOT OF MONEY ON MUSLIM AND OTHER RELIGON TO CONVERT QADYINAT. IN PAKISTAN MOST OF MUSLIM WHO HAVE NOT KNOWLEDGE EVEN ABOUT ISLAM THE QADYNI ATTACK ON THIS TYPE OF PEOPLE AND GIVE LOT OF MONEY TO CONVERT QADIYANT.THE QADYANI MISSONARY GO IN BACK WORD AREA OF PAKISTAN AND OFFER MONEY TO PEOLE TO CONVERT QADIYNAT.SO THEY MOSTLY ATTACK ON THIS TYPE OF PERSON WHO CAN NOT READ AND WRITE IF HE CAN READ THEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM TO CONVERT ISLAM BCZ IN QADIYANT OOKS EVERY THING IS FRAUD.
The unity you people show against Ahmadiyyate. Wish you can produce such unity among yourselves to save ISLAM. But you can’t. You are fighting and will fight with each other and remain fighting until your new generations will leave you people. Because the ISLAM you present contains hatred for others. While TRUE ISLAM is PEACE and LOVE for one’s own self and others.
We AHMADIES just say one thing
LOVE for ALL and HATRED for NONE… the true message of ISLAM.
We will win the hearts of everyone by our love, peace and humanity regardless of who they are.
You are mistaken. The True Message of Islam is the Holy Quran and in it, along with the authentic ahadith of Muhammad PBUH are very explicit clear about the Finality and the Seal of the Prophethood of the Prophet Muhammad!!
I invite you to Islam, the Deen that was revealed 1400 years ago to Prophet Muhammad.
Please read the book”Qadyaniyat Islam Aur Science Ke Katehray Mei” by Irfan Mehmood Burq.(Converted to Islam Former Qadiyani).
LaanaT Beshumaar!!! Ghulam Qadiyani py bhi or uske mannay walon pay bhi!!
prophets are the most beautiful creation by god at that particular times just look at the face of mirza and ask your heart u will get the answer my heart says…………..forget it
@LUTF
I guess ur a Kafir (Qadiyani) ….. May Allah guide you. Ameen.
qadyaninio tum log ak sazis ka shakar ho jo k mirza ghulam nay ki.unu nay apnay 313 dosto ko ashab a badar ka nam dia.apni azwaj ko um mul momnine kaha.dosto ko sahabi kahahar bat may hazoor pak s.a.w ki nakal ki.magar ap s.aw nay tow bohat say gizwo may hisa lea.magar MGAQ nay koi jang na ki.ap s.a.w ko bohat takleefain utana parein tow qadyani khtay hain k m.g.a.q ko b bohat taklefain utana parein jasa k ap s.aw ko utana parin.yani har bat ma a s.a.w ki brabri karnay ki jasart kartay hain.jo k kufar hai.ap s.aw nay apni wafat tak arab ko taskeer kar lea tha or wafat k kuch arsay bad ak azeem o shan islami saltant qayim ho gayi.magar qadyani MGAQ ki wafat k etnay arsay bad b apni saltant qayim na kar sakay.kiyu k wo ALLAH k dhutkary hua log hain.MGAQ b apni wafat tak apnay logo k lea koi mulk hasil na kar saka.iyu k wo ak buzdil shaks thay.qadiyoni tum log hakikat ko samj jayo k za ak kafro ki sazis the or MGAQ kafiro ka agent.esi waja say MGAQ ko sarmnak mote utana pari or esi lea tum kadyani abi tak rusva ho rahay ho or rhnay k lea ak mulk b tm logo ko na mil saka.jis b ahmadi sa bat ho wo khtay hain ham jald kamyab hio gay.agar kamyabi tmharay mukadr ma hoti tow ab tak tm logu ko mil chuki hoti.ahmdiyat seraf ak fitna hai jo k kyamat kki ak nisani b hai.tm log allah ki bato ko change kartay ho or un k galt mahfoom nikalta ho jo k kafiro ka shava hai.maslan tm log kalma partay ho jis ka matlab hai k hazoor pak saw allah k akria rasool hain.magar tm log apna zahan dako k kalma ka matlb hi change kar dia k nabi 2 kisam k hotay hain wagara wagara.or esi tara sa har ayat ka ajeb mahfoom nikal lea hai tm logu nay.
ALLAH tm logu ko hedayat day
what the hell this Mirza Qadyani. I cannot understand one thing if qadiyaniayn are right then why they are not show their religion.strange:;
They trap others in very sharp way.may Allah keep our believe strong.Amiiiiiin and give hadayat to these shunned people.
Ghulam Ahmed Qadyani got it all wrong with regard to his claim that Allah had married him to Mohammadi Begum in Jannat but the marriage never took place despite his repeated requests to Mohammadi Begum’s father. How can a prophet be ever wrong in his claims.He will take the entire Qadiyani following into Jahnam on the day of AAkhirat.Why is it that the Qadyani followers not see the truth?In the light of the fact that so many of Ghulam Ahmed’s prophecies went wrong why are the Qadyanis blind?Please save yourselves from the fire of Hell before it is too late and death takes you away from this world
Assalam.o.Alikum
Well first of all ,i would like to say that we as a Muslim means believer of Muhammad(S.A.W.) .we all are weak in our religions(concepts) bcoz of ths these so called Muslims quadians took advantage of ths .
Second thing is this that k na to koi dijjal aya na koi jang hue aur na sub muslaman aik jhante tale jama hue tou phr kase yh imam mehadi ho gya aur na yh Issa (a.s) ho sakta ha .Allah ka nam lo aur wapis islam ki taraf aha jao
So according to the ahmadis if i love and cherish islam and follow it the way it should be followed..then i too can be a prophet??? (naauzubillah) admitting that im still lower in ranks by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and that Quran is the final word and yet claiming that i myself am a prophet are two contradictory beliefs..if Quran is the final word then my own words(as a prophet ) should be of no significance..
ahmadis are not muslims. because islam says that Muhammad{PBUH} is the last messanger of God.They claim that mirza is last sub messanger of God.But islam does not accept this
Dear Mohsin, could you or anyone in this blog please mention the verse number and surah where its mentioned explicitly that Muhammad(s.aw.) is the last messenger and prophet